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unavoidable mobile warp disruptors
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Siumuz
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-20 06:58:53 UTC
doing some tests i noticed that the drag range of a mobile small warp disruptor is something like 200 km. If you put 2 alligned mobile wd one at 200 km from the sun and the other at 340, warping from the dragged direction you will land at 340 km from the sun. Now i would like to know if putting something like 6-7 alligned bubbles at a gate, where the last bubble is around 1200 km from the gate, it could be possible that the the ships that warp at 0 on the gate will land at 1200 from it. If this is possible, at a great distance from the gate, the last bubble should drag from safespots too, making impossible to avoid the bubble.

Sry for my bad english :)
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-06-20 12:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
they need to be on grid.
if you manage to pull the grid out to 1200km (not hard but arguably an exploit) then sure, you can put a bubble 1200km off the gate.

that doesnt make it unavoidable tho, all you need is a BM ~50+ km (preferably 150+ so you can warp to the gate) above/below the gate and you can warp to the BM to avoid any bubbles.

not really sure what you mean by 'pulling from safespots' as by definition a safe spot would be off grid and hence not affected by the bubble.

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Siumuz
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-06-20 12:33:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Siumuz
for example the torrins gate in ec-p8r have all the system almost in the same direction, a spot 150 above the gate should be alligned too with a bubble at 1200 km from the gate
Rasmido
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-20 12:58:48 UTC
Siumuz wrote:
it could be possible that the the ships that warp at 0 on the gate will land at 1200 from it.


If you can build this grid... then yes they should be catched.

note: bubbles only count if they are on grid with your warptarget

Siumuz wrote:
If this is possible, at a great distance from the gate, the last bubble should drag from safespots too, making impossible to avoid the bubble.


if i got your idea right... do the math :)

lets do an example:

A - is my start
B - warp to
C - is my savespot 300km over or under B
D - is the bubble on direct line between A and B

to do it simple - lets assume its a perfect right angled triangle.
the distance between A and B .. lets say 100.000 km = AB (thats a really short distance in space)
BC = 300km
Large T2 Bubble radius = 48km

cos alpha = AB / BC = AD / radius bubble

AD = AB / BC * radius bubble

AD = 100.000km / 300km * 48km
AD = 16.000 km
BD = AB - AD = 84.000km

You have to build a 84.000+ km grid with these numbers.

conclusion: technically possible - but impracticable

PS: the formula is there... you can try with your own numbers...