EVE General Discussion

In Eve I am almost exclusively a small gang/solo pvper, and have been for the past few years. I've noticed the traffic in null slowly reducing to a point where it is actually safer to be around null than highsec in many cases, which in my mind is not the way things should be. From a purely selfish point of view I would like to see this trend reverse and see null becoming as vibrant as it has been in days gone by so I've got stuff to shoot.

I explored why this has been happening a while ago, and it generated some really interesting ideas, so I'd like to revisit it. If nothing else it gives the players and CCP something to think about.

There are a few reasons that I can see for a reduction of traffic, mainly caused by a lack of migration of players into null:

- High barriers to entry for newer players/corps/alliances to move to null
- Not enough of a carrot to entice players away from highsec
- A lack of differentiated content in null vs. other areas of space.
- Current alliances entrenched in their space.
- Not enough reason for industrialists to be in null

So my question to the masses is this: What features could be introduced to reverse the trend, and increase the number of people wanting to come to null?

Before we get into the inevitable flame session that is General Discussion, I wanted to stress that I don't want this to be a "y u no pvp carebears" thread. There's enough of those already. Equally, for people who want to stay in highsec - that's fine too... nobody's forcing you to leave!

UPDATE

Here are the areas which have been prevalent in the thread so far:

The overwhelming majority of people want nullsec industry to have significant advantages over highsec. It is clear that massive strides need to be made in this area and there are plenty of good suggestions in this thread

Nerfing Jump Drive/Jump Bridge Mechanics - this would force Null Sec Alliances to travel through parts of lowsec to sell their goods in a High Sec market hub. Lots of debate, no consensus

Tax on High Sec Holdings to pay CONCORD to protect you.

Removal of NPC Corps

My personal favourite - give small roaming gangs a reason to roam for isk. Raidable moon mining pos's have been suggesed

ban npc corps
nerf highsec station refining rate
overhaul 0.0 industry in general
add capital strip miner for rorquals that only works on low end ore

Wrong move. This will herd not only highseccers, but also small null and lowsec people into mega sov null NAP trains, where they will stay in entrenched safe areas, making majority of null space more deserted than ever.



Lowsec parts that actually offers reward, like FW areas, are bustling. Null space doesn't lack rewards, just access.

So your answer is to make space unentrenchable, meaning all of it becomes deserted and unused. Nah, that soundsbackwards. More people using 0.0 space = more targets = more fun.


So the lesson you took from the success of the FW revamp is that you think it succeeded from lack of bubbles, not the nature of FW isk generation and gameplay

lol

How can you know that null sec is boring and safe and high sec "in many case" is more dangerous and yet come to the conclusion that high sec needs yet more nerfing?

If anything more risk requires more reward if we go by the often quoted null sec mantra... what are you thinking!? If you want null sec to be the dangerous place it was large protectorates are going to need to be broken.. so get off your high horse and go gank null seccers.

lol

Then use both the stick and the carrot and move all level 4s no lo sec.

Here's the issue with using the carrot to push hi sec carebears into lo and null.

There are already people like me who are deeply entrenched in the existing lo and null gameplay. If you plant more carrots in our garden, we are in a perfect place to eat them before you even get there.

That means we will use your buff to get even deeper entrenched and you'll have an even stronger obstacle to entering lo and null.

By the way, if you want to get into null try living in outer ring. Its all NPC space with lots of space stations you can dock at.

As low already has lvl 4's, where is the carrot in this?

citation needed