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Time to split the game?

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Oisin Sandovar
Don't Die Interstellar Enterprises
#101 - 2012-06-19 17:58:51 UTC
Confirming my answer is "No". Also, posting in yet another split the server thread.

That is all.

"And the only people I fear are those who never have doubts", Billy Joel, Shades of Grey

Alexa Coates
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#102 - 2012-06-19 18:04:04 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
get out

:frog:

That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter used by carriers.

CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#103 - 2012-06-19 18:09:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Prism X
Citsatllort wrote:
Kacer Xenro wrote:
Inbefore the shitstorm.

Look what happened to Ultima Online, or the wilderness in Runespace, you're bad and so is your idea.



UO continued to acquire new customers and was able to hold on to them after cloning the worlds and making one 'safe'.


Origins continued to acquire subs with their new EQ clone, yes. It wasn't UO though. They left the niche at that point leaving it completely vacant for us (Edit: although they did give EQ decent competition until WoW came, saw and conquered). I don't see why we should be giving up our niche, we worked hard on making it ours.

But as a compromise we also created Serenity, our Chinese server split off from TQ. Can't we all just hug and be happy (and then start the backstabbing and looting as is customary in New Eden)?
Othran
Route One
#104 - 2012-06-19 18:16:31 UTC
Who the hell would go on an Eve "PVE only" server? Compared to other MMOs Eve's PVE is rubbish - a lot better than it used to be, but nobody is going to stick with that for long.

What keeps Eve going is simply the fact that you aren't safe from other players anywhere in space. You can be "safer" but never "safe".

The day that changes is the day Eve dies and we all move onto happy-clappy nonsense.....
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#105 - 2012-06-19 18:36:46 UTC
a PVE only shard?

This idea is bad and the op should feel bad. Seriously, he should feel bad.
Garphunkle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#106 - 2012-06-19 18:47:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Garphunkle
Id just find a way to stab spaceships in EVE Lite. Yeah I cant warp scram your peaceful freighter that doesn't want to fight and all it wants is to transport deadly, deadly weapons for you know :peace:, but I sure as hell can bump you with Machs until it takes 1 hour to warp. Than meet you at the next gate and so on. Actually, why don't I do that now?

Btw, in EVE Lite who is buying all your manufactured space pixels?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#107 - 2012-06-19 18:49:39 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Only split that would ever be worth considering would be North American / Euro(Russian) with both shards continuing with the same rules and gameplay at inception.
Kind of, but not for any of the reasons being discussed.

It would make sense for network geography reasons, not for any social reasons (in fact, the social reasons are by far the biggest reason not to do it). Should EVE ever get PCUs counting in the hundreds of thousands rather than tens of thousands, it might be prudent to have different servers simply because it'll be easier to create two separate clusters than trying to squeeze everyone through the same bottleneck nodes.

…but even then, something like CREST could keep the two worlds synchronised on a higher level (so to the user, it would mainly just look like grid/system instancing).
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#108 - 2012-06-19 19:08:29 UTC
Garphunkle wrote:
Id just find a way to stab spaceships in EVE Lite. Yeah I cant warp scram your peaceful freighter that doesn't want to fight and all it wants is to transport deadly, deadly weapons for you know :peace:, but I sure as hell can bump you with Machs until it takes 1 hour to warp. Than meet you at the next gate and so on. Actually, why don't I do that now?

Btw, in EVE Lite who is buying all your manufactured space pixels?

Not many people after they have their blinged out mach.

Maybe everyone will have titan parties.

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Kieron VonDeux
#109 - 2012-06-19 19:39:15 UTC
Splitting this game would be the death to Eve Online.

What is it time for is for some to realize that they can't force others to play the game in a specific manner.
PvE is just as valid as PvP. Most players probably do PvE/PvP at different amounts at diferent times in their career.

PvP is not a more "manly" form of gameplay. Being the **** in PvP doesn't make you **** IRL. It's all in your head, and in some DB on a server somewhere in England. Just little bits of 1s and 0s.

As well, PvE doesn't make you the weak scum of the MMO Community as some like to think. Players have different intrests ingame as they go through life and those interests change as their online gaming career progresses.

Thinking one can, and trying to force someone into gameplay they are not interested in at that time is simply one of the most childish behaviors that exist.

As well, the Forums are the worst place to try and gauge player opinons about the health of any game. It is skewed by the fact that they are normally either already have a gripe or are bored.
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#110 - 2012-06-19 19:43:15 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Not many people after they have their blinged out mach.

Maybe everyone will have titan parties.


This way ladies! Time for a Titan Tea Party! Everyone line up for group photos!
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#111 - 2012-06-19 19:44:24 UTC
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
What is it time for is for some to realize that they can't force others to play the game in a specific manner.
PvE is just as valid as PvP. Most players probably do PvE/PvP at different amounts at diferent times in their career.

The only people who give a **** how someone else plays the game in regards to PvE and PvP are ******** forum trolls. And if you hadn't figured it out by now it is pretty damn hard to not PvP in EVE. At some point you are going to be in competition with someone else.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Atrocitus Parallax
Doomheim
#112 - 2012-06-19 19:45:39 UTC
As a noob that loves PVE, and even enjoys mining I can say this is a very bad idea. The reason I enjoy PVE and mining in EVE vs other games is the excitement of risk and the potential of the unknown. It's the same reason I hunt deer with a spear in a forest full of wolves.
Kieron VonDeux
#113 - 2012-06-19 19:52:09 UTC
Karl Hobb wrote:

...And if you hadn't figured it out by now it is pretty damn hard to not PvP in EVE. At some point you are going to be in competition with someone else.


"Preaching to the choir"
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#114 - 2012-06-19 19:56:12 UTC
Kieron VonDeux wrote:
"Preaching to the choir"

Oh, sorry, I mistook your post for a "SOMEONE TOLD ME I DON'T PLAY EVE RIGHT" tirade.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#115 - 2012-06-19 20:33:01 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Who wants EvEFarmville?

Bleh.


but think of the space ponies!!!!!

SPACE PONIES!!!!!!!

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Rrama Ratamnim
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2012-06-19 20:41:34 UTC
LOL this is a silly post OP....

The disagreement about what "eve is" ....

IS WHAT EVE IS!

Eve is disagreement, its "its my pve experience leave me alone" and its "this is PVP EVERYWHERE I WILL GANK YOU" and theres "we're gonna take over the universe and screw you all"

If there was just a PVP and PVE server wtf would be the point? PVP for what point? PVE for what result? Who are you going to sell goods to? This is just worst ever idea EVER
pussnheels
Viziam
#117 - 2012-06-19 21:05:12 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
other just onebig arcade game where everybody flies a ibis since nobody ever produces anything



Why do you believe PvPers are unable to produce anything? Is it because the "PVP" character class has a -100% industry modifier even at level 80?

because i know alot of you consider it lame slow and something that should be avoided as the plague , besides i don't see allthose cap pilots mining their own ice , do you ? it would be hillarious tho

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire

Kievan Arakyd
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-06-19 21:09:18 UTC
OP, Please transfer your isk and assets to me, and biomass your toon. Thanks.

Got my Dust514 key...

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#119 - 2012-06-19 21:28:45 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
because i know alot of you consider it lame slow and something that should be avoided as the plague , besides i don't see allthose cap pilots mining their own ice , do you ? it would be hillarious tho

I produce tons of things every month, thank you very much, I happen to find it an interesting thing to do.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#120 - 2012-06-19 21:48:09 UTC
Talon says just say no to shards, mkay

Tal