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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#1 - 2012-06-19 19:43:08 UTC
I looked in this article, but didn't see my answer.

I get the difference between Passive and Aggressive drone settings, but what does Focus Fire do? Does that setting make your drones attack whatever you attack?

TIA!

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Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#2 - 2012-06-19 19:46:00 UTC
I always thought that it made all of your drones attack 1 target, rather than splitting up and attacking multiple targets.
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#3 - 2012-06-19 19:48:45 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
I always thought that it made all of your drones attack 1 target, rather than splitting up and attacking multiple targets.


That makes sense too and seems to be the general consensus in older threads that I just searched. Thanks for the info!

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Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#4 - 2012-06-19 19:52:26 UTC
I'll have to try playing with the checkbox tonight, it would be nice if unchecking it would keep them from attacking my target.

I want my drones to kill the frigates that are circling me, not the BC I'm firing at 30km away.
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#5 - 2012-06-19 19:57:06 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
I'll have to try playing with the checkbox tonight, it would be nice if unchecking it would keep them from attacking my target.

I want my drones to kill the frigates that are circling me, not the BC I'm firing at 30km away.

An upgrade to the customization would be nice. Maybe allowing something similar to the scanning filters (checkboxes for certain ship types)...

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."

J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-06-19 20:08:07 UTC
Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
Andoria Thara wrote:
I'll have to try playing with the checkbox tonight, it would be nice if unchecking it would keep them from attacking my target.

I want my drones to kill the frigates that are circling me, not the BC I'm firing at 30km away.

An upgrade to the customization would be nice. Maybe allowing something similar to the scanning filters (checkboxes for certain ship types)...


Focus fire = All drones focus their fire on 1 target when left on own control

As for the small orbits vs long range BC.

Lock the frigs, and hit 'F'
F = hotkey to get your drones to engage the selected target

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Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#7 - 2012-06-19 20:11:24 UTC
J'Poll wrote:

As for the small orbits vs long range BC.

Lock the frigs, and hit 'F'
F = hotkey to get your drones to engage the selected target


That's what I've been doing, but it would be nice if when on aggressive mode, and I don't send them to attack something, they attacked nearest target at least, rather than attacking what I'm firing at.
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#8 - 2012-06-19 20:51:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Morwen Lagann
Andoria Thara wrote:
I'll have to try playing with the checkbox tonight, it would be nice if unchecking it would keep them from attacking my target.

I want my drones to kill the frigates that are circling me, not the BC I'm firing at 30km away.


Drone behavior leaves much to be desired, but here's a quick run-down.

If your drones are set to Passive, they will only engage targets you explicitly tell them to; after destroying that target they will return to an idle state until instructed to engage something else.

If your drones are set to Aggressive then the logic is a little more complex. Aggressive drones will attack things of their own accord if the target is:
  • Redboxing (actually attacking, be it by shooting or use of EWAR) you or the drones, and
  • Within your drone control range.

  • However, aggressive drones, when deployed, will not do anything until given a reason to do so. This can be one of four things:
  • Something within your drone control range that was not engaging you when the drones were deployed redboxes you, or
  • Something within your drone control range attacks one of your drones, or
  • You aggress something within your drone control range, or
  • You tell your drones to attack a specific target.

  • After aggressive drones have started shooting at things, behavior can be a little confusing:
  • When your drones' target is destroyed, there is a brief moment in which they are idle while selecting their next target according to some blackbox prioritization that nobody really understands.
  • During this period, if you aggress something within your drone control range, they will skip the target selection phase and will engage what you just shot at.
  • Otherwise, they will select a target that meets the criteria in the first list above.

  • Hope this helps. Smile

    EDIT: To clarify your specific situation, Andoria, if you are not shooting at something when your drones kill their target (for example, they may have been shooting at what you were), there's a brief period where you shooting at something will override their automatic target selection.

    Morwen Lagann

    CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

    Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

    Owner, The Golden Masque

    Flakey Foont
    #9 - 2012-06-19 20:54:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Flakey Foont
    How come I never have these issue? My drones are usually set aggressive. I lock a target and tell my drones to attack it and they do. After they kill it I tell them to attack another locked target and they do. Only issue is sometimes focus-fire doesn't take.


    Obviously they won't attack anything out of control range.

    Guess I am just lucky.
    J'Poll
    School of Applied Knowledge
    Caldari State
    #10 - 2012-06-19 21:16:39 UTC
    Flakey Foont wrote:
    How come I never have these issue? My drones are usually set aggressive. I lock a target and tell my drones to attack it and they do. After they kill it I tell them to attack another locked target and they do. Only issue is sometimes focus-fire doesn't take.


    Obviously they won't attack anything out of control range.

    Guess I am just lucky.


    So basically your using a passive mode while your drones are on active, aka you are telling them what to shoot.

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    J'Poll
    School of Applied Knowledge
    Caldari State
    #11 - 2012-06-19 21:17:37 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
    Morwen Lagann wrote:
    Andoria Thara wrote:
    I'll have to try playing with the checkbox tonight, it would be nice if unchecking it would keep them from attacking my target.

    I want my drones to kill the frigates that are circling me, not the BC I'm firing at 30km away.


    Drone behavior leaves much to be desired, but here's a quick run-down.

    If your drones are set to Passive, they will only engage targets you explicitly tell them to; after destroying that target they will return to an idle state until instructed to engage something else.

    If your drones are set to Aggressive then the logic is a little more complex. Aggressive drones will attack things of their own accord if the target is:
  • Redboxing (actually attacking, be it by shooting or use of EWAR) you or the drones, and
  • Within your drone control range.

  • However, aggressive drones, when deployed, will not do anything until given a reason to do so. This can be one of three things:
  • Something within your drone control range that was not engaging you when the drones were deployed redboxes you, or
  • Something within your drone control range attacks one of your drones, or
  • You aggress something within your drone control range, or
  • You tell your drones to attack a specific target.

  • After aggressive drones have started shooting at things, behavior can be a little confusing:
  • When your drones' target is destroyed, there is a brief moment in which they are idle while selecting their next target according to some blackbox prioritization that nobody really understands.
  • During this period, if you aggress something within your drone control range, they will skip the target selection phase and will engage what you just shot at.
  • Otherwise, they will select a target that meets the criteria in the first list above.

  • Hope this helps. Smile

    EDIT: To clarify your specific situation, Andoria, if you are not shooting at something when your drones kill their target (for example, they may have been shooting at what you were), there's a brief period where you shooting at something will override their automatic target selection.


    Great explanation

    but the bold/underlined word vs the amount of points made me laugh

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    Threndir
    ISK Enterprises Ltd
    #12 - 2012-06-19 21:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Threndir
    Flakey Foont wrote:
    How come I never have these issue? My drones are usually set aggressive. I lock a target and tell my drones to attack it and they do. After they kill it I tell them to attack another locked target and they do. Only issue is sometimes focus-fire doesn't take.


    Obviously they won't attack anything out of control range.

    Guess I am just lucky.


    No, you just don't understand what they are talking about. The way you play your drones, it doesn't matter if they are set to passive or agressive. You give them orders, so they listen.

    If you just launch your drones and NOT instruct them to do something, then it matters in what mode they are set. In passive mode your drones do nothing until you instruct them to do something (like you do). In agressive mode they will look for targets themselves, without you giving instructions.
    That is what this topic is about.
    Louis deGuerre
    The Dark Tribe
    Minmatar Fleet Alliance
    #13 - 2012-06-19 21:41:14 UTC
    Note that drones are notoriously buggy. Even with focus fire they may decide to split up and when agressive they may stop agressing. It is best to keep them set to focus fire and agressive so with a little luck they keep fighting when you're jammed.
    Luis Graca
    #14 - 2012-06-19 22:01:08 UTC
    Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
    I looked in this article, but didn't see my answer.

    I get the difference between Passive and Aggressive drone settings, but what does Focus Fire do? Does that setting make your drones attack whatever you attack?

    TIA!



    When you're ship is strike if the drones are on aggressive they will respond if they are on passive they won't do anything

    Note: I don't actually know if you need to be strike or if just been agresse like can flip
    Morwen Lagann
    Tyrathlion Interstellar
    #15 - 2012-06-20 01:15:33 UTC
    J'Poll wrote:

    Great explanation

    but the bold/underlined word vs the amount of points made me laugh


    I'd realized I'd forgotten something, went back and added it, and forgot to update the bit above. Fixing it now. :P

    Morwen Lagann

    CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar

    Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium

    Owner, The Golden Masque