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Jafit
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-06-19 14:43:01 UTC
:shobon:
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#22 - 2012-06-19 14:43:16 UTC
Ana Vyr wrote:
Welcome to the community! Take the forums with a grain of salt, as they are typically over the top.


no, Spiderman turn off the dark is over the top
eveo forums are more like underneath the septic tank

anyhow, sounds like you are doing eve right, good show
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2012-06-19 14:45:27 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
CCP Guard wrote:
Welcome! Sounds like you're off to a pretty strong start. I was playing a lot longer than you before I ever saw 400 million.


I converted somebody into an Eve player yesterday. It left a terrible taste in my mouth and I felt like a bad person afterwards.


My mortgage and I applaud your achievements in unison! Big smile

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#24 - 2012-06-19 15:58:47 UTC
Let me finsh your EVE experience for you OP.....

You'll go to a 0.0 corp....You'll rat your little heart out until (A) Some cloaky guy parks in your ratting system and you all dock up or (B) You'll get bored to tears ratting your little heart out.....OFC you can do exploration for plexes and sites, but they'll most likely be found and farmed out by the time you go looking for them.

Oh wait, you went out there for the epic space battles! The battles where hundreds of players slug it out for control of a vital solar system!

It does not exist in EVE under it's current mechanics...It's blobbed or be blobbed and 9 times out of 10 these days the defenders would rather pack up and leave if the know that the aggressor is even slightly stronger than them.

Sure, you can go out on a roam with your corp/alliance...20,30 or 40 guys! Personally, I'd go to church first (or whatever religious domination you are,if you are) and pray that you might actually get someone or don't get hotdropped within 40 jumps of your starting point....Oh and take your time at church, it will most likely take at least and hour for a gang to form.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2012-06-19 16:02:06 UTC
By this stage alI I had 10 mil in the bank and a rubbish blackbird for doing missions...
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#26 - 2012-06-19 16:06:28 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
Let me finsh your EVE experience for you OP.....

You'll go to a 0.0 corp....You'll rat your little heart out until (A) Some cloaky guy parks in your ratting system and you all dock up or (B) You'll get bored to tears ratting your little heart out.....OFC you can do exploration for plexes and sites, but they'll most likely be found and farmed out by the time you go looking for them.

Oh wait, you went out there for the epic space battles! The battles where hundreds of players slug it out for control of a vital solar system!

It does not exist in EVE under it's current mechanics...It's blobbed or be blobbed and 9 times out of 10 these days the defenders would rather pack up and leave if the know that the aggressor is even slightly stronger than them.

Sure, you can go out on a roam with your corp/alliance...20,30 or 40 guys! Personally, I'd go to church first (or whatever religious domination you are,if you are) and pray that you might actually get someone or don't get hotdropped within 40 jumps of your starting point....Oh and take your time at church, it will most likely take at least and hour for a gang to form.

Some of us are competent enough to kill stuff without 39 friends for backup.

Worst part is, I'm a frickin care bear.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Rudy Eirikr
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-06-19 16:07:08 UTC
Jafit wrote:
:shobon:


Tons of :shobon: Lol
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-06-19 16:39:26 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
terzho wrote:

...
-joined a corp
...

All datamining supports the notion that players who join player corps on during their initial experience with EVE stick to the game. It's why we put a tax on the NPC corps, it's why we created the recruiting tools, it's what we're currently looking at trying to ensure people do. Big smile
Have you considered just doing away with NPC corps and making players individually wardecable?
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#29 - 2012-06-19 16:49:33 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Have you considered just doing away with NPC corps and making players individually wardecable?

That sounds like a good idea to you and me because we know EVE. But players who are still getting to grips with EVE will just quit rather than try to engage a corporation of grifers in a discussion on how the hell they should undock to complete the tutorial without being pwnt.

Sure we could continue enforce rules about newbie griefing. But the definition of when you're a newbie and when you're capable is highly nebulous. Furthermore we cater to the griefing crowd so it's only natural to expect our players to try and poke at whatever laws we put up. There was a topic here on GD recently which was essentially people trying to get a GM to paint himself into a corner by defining what we consider "newbies" and I see no reason for that to stop.

And if we exclude newbies from this system, what's the point? They'll have quit the game before anyone decs them and thus prompts them to seek protection.

But this is just me being a negative Nancy. Nobody likes my ideas SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE YOURS! Twisted
I kid, of course all ideas are welcome and this one is very good although it suffers for not being OmgIDontKnowAnythingAboutEveWhatShouldIDo?!?-centric. If that makes sense.

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#30 - 2012-06-19 16:50:00 UTC
Welcome to EVE. Enjoy your stay.

Can I haz your stuff anyways? Or just wander aimlessly to lowsec and I'll take it by force Twisted

:D
Sivir Iska
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-06-19 16:50:18 UTC
Wow, 400 mil in a month, grats. I wonder why people cry about Lvl4s after seeing that. Shocked
CynoMonkey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2012-06-19 16:52:14 UTC
Rage quitting because I didn't get 400 mil in my first month. Bring back learning skills Twisted

Post with your monkey or GTFO
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#33 - 2012-06-19 16:56:03 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Have you considered just doing away with NPC corps and making players individually wardecable?


Dude, hitch up your dress and go shoot them if you want them that bad. Geez.

OP, welcome to Eve, enjoy your stay and avoid NickyYo. Seriously.

John Hancock
Luis Graca
#34 - 2012-06-19 16:58:12 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Have you considered just doing away with NPC corps and making players individually wardecable?

That sounds like a good idea to you and me because we know EVE. But players who are still getting to grips with EVE will just quit rather than try to engage a corporation of grifers in a discussion on how the hell they should undock to complete the tutorial without being pwnt.

Sure we could continue enforce rules about newbie griefing. But the definition of when you're a newbie and when you're capable is highly nebulous. Furthermore we cater to the griefing crowd so it's only natural to expect our players to try and poke at whatever laws we put up. There was a topic here on GD recently which was essentially people trying to get a GM to paint himself into a corner by defining what we consider "newbies" and I see no reason for that to stop.

And if we exclude newbies from this system, what's the point? They'll have quit the game before anyone decs them and thus prompts them to seek protection.

But this is just me being a negative Nancy. Nobody likes my ideas SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE YOURS! Twisted
I kid, of course all ideas are welcome and this one is very good although it suffers for not being OmgIDontKnowAnythingAboutEveWhatShouldIDo?!?-centric. If that makes sense.


Why do i have a feeling that if this thing goes forward as soon as you get a Battlecruiser you will be wardec?
CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2012-06-19 17:24:40 UTC
Sivir Iska wrote:
Wow, 400 mil in a month, grats. I wonder why people cry about Lvl4s after seeing that. Shocked


As a fan of the market trading profession, I'd be curious to know what the OP was buying and selling to make his first 400 million.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#36 - 2012-06-19 17:44:17 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
Have you considered just doing away with NPC corps and making players individually wardecable?

That sounds like a good idea to you and me because we know EVE. But players who are still getting to grips with EVE will just quit rather than try to engage a corporation of grifers in a discussion on how the hell they should undock to complete the tutorial without being pwnt.

Sure we could continue enforce rules about newbie griefing. But the definition of when you're a newbie and when you're capable is highly nebulous. Furthermore we cater to the griefing crowd so it's only natural to expect our players to try and poke at whatever laws we put up. There was a topic here on GD recently which was essentially people trying to get a GM to paint himself into a corner by defining what we consider "newbies" and I see no reason for that to stop.

And if we exclude newbies from this system, what's the point? They'll have quit the game before anyone decs them and thus prompts them to seek protection.

But this is just me being a negative Nancy. Nobody likes my ideas SO I'M NOT GOING TO LIKE YOURS! Twisted
I kid, of course all ideas are welcome and this one is very good although it suffers for not being OmgIDontKnowAnythingAboutEveWhatShouldIDo?!?-centric. If that makes sense.

1) Flag anyone over x months old in an NPC corp with a suspect flag.

2) Watch.

3) ?????

4) PROFIT!!!

No but seriously, that would be a hilarious mechanic.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
DeliaPrescot
Balintol
#37 - 2012-06-19 17:48:01 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Sivir Iska wrote:
Wow, 400 mil in a month, grats. I wonder why people cry about Lvl4s after seeing that. Shocked


As a fan of the market trading profession, I'd be curious to know what the OP was buying and selling to make his first 400 million.


You forget the first rule of the trader club, do not talk about your trading. Just get rich :). And i still hate CCP for killing the contract market that was the easiest ISK i ever made 3b to 6b per week depending on if i "worked" 7h or 14h per week. That was roughly 500m/h, damn CCP.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#38 - 2012-06-19 17:49:59 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Sivir Iska wrote:
Wow, 400 mil in a month, grats. I wonder why people cry about Lvl4s after seeing that. Shocked


As a fan of the market trading profession, I'd be curious to know what the OP was buying and selling to make his first 400 million.


hey, quit trying to muscle in on his gig

there's decent margins on manual buys/sells, but it takes as much work as missioning or more Blink
gfldex
#39 - 2012-06-19 20:21:34 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
As a fan of the market trading profession, I'd be curious to know what the OP was buying and selling to make his first 400 million.


I can't tell you what he did, but what I did with a new char I made with one of them fancy 60 day trials (to take part in hulkageddon). You go to Jita and buy stuff new players tend to fit to their ships. Meta 3/4 small guns, launchers, reppers. Stay away from anything that needs more then 3 days of SP (for obvious reason) and sell it in the systems with the career agents. The turnover is staggering and so are the margins. There are so many noobs that turn a PLEX into ISK who have no sense how much stuff is worth (because they didn't earn their ISK) that you will have problems to supply them all.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-06-19 20:29:17 UTC
Not only does this thread feature a cute newbie being cute, but the revelation that our old buddies in IAC are actually still active and doing things (like recruiting cute newbies).

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.