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Tiny Temper
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-06-19 09:38:06 UTC
I am here to let people know about one of the biggest mass killings of slaves in the past few years.

Earlier today 160,800 slaves were merciless murdered in Utopia when a gang of savages destroyed the Obelisk freighter they were being transported in...

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13706468

I do not know the motives of the pilot transporting them - maybe she was about to give them their freedom - maybe she is a slave dealer - I cannot say...

However, what can be said with certainty is that the pilots Skelee VI, CoReSol, Ari Menahem, Quawr and Myrradah have a lot of Minmatar blood on their hands...
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-19 09:45:09 UTC
I would make the small point that "slaves" is a standard CONCORD-recognised commodity and includes slaves of all races, which the Angel Cartel gleefully trades in, so we have no idea how many of those were actually Minmatar.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
Tiny Temper
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-19 09:49:03 UTC
I have never seen a breakdown on the racial makeup of the slave trade - but think it is fair to assume that the majority are Minmatar thanks to the Amarrian pillaging of our planets...
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#4 - 2012-06-19 11:02:39 UTC
In any case, it's Miss Lisa who decided to fly around in a completely untanked freighter, and who was transporting the slaves in the first place. Funny that you didn't mention her.
Tiny Temper
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-06-19 11:07:09 UTC
I did.
DeadRow
Blue Canary
Watch This
#6 - 2012-06-19 11:07:52 UTC
It's more unescorted than untanked, since you can't fit any modules onto a freighter. Point still stands though; Pilot is an idiot and got her ship blown up.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#7 - 2012-06-19 11:23:13 UTC
Tiny Temper wrote:
I did.


You didn't, actually. You posted a link, sure, but you went out of the way to name the people who blew up the freighter, and missed mentioning the person who was flying it.

It's a senseless loss of life, in any case. Capsuleers are, basically, awful.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-19 11:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
DeadRow wrote:
It's more unescorted than untanked, since you can't fit any modules onto a freighter. Point still stands though; Pilot is an idiot and got her ship blown up.

Seconded. Makes me wonder how pathetic the graduation standards are at the academies these days...because I hope that anyone in the IGS with half a braincell realizes that a freighter in busy 0.0 space has a very large bulls-eye with the words "SHOOT ME" painted on it. Besides, couldn't she just have done a couple of jump freighter runs to achieve the same goal with much less risk to her ship or cargo? (Although cynoships are often destroyed after they have served their purpose, they are designed to be disposable, much more so than a freighter!)
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2012-06-19 11:53:49 UTC
Tiny Temper wrote:
I have never seen a breakdown on the racial makeup of the slave trade - but think it is fair to assume that the majority are Minmatar thanks to the Amarrian pillaging of our planets...


Minmatar slaves may be the ones who get all of the attention from bleeding heart emancipationists and sociopathic terrorists, but there are an awful lot of Ealurians enslaved in the Empire as well.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Rogue Integer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-06-19 17:23:03 UTC
As I understand it, Pilot Blake, are there not Amarrian slaves where some member of the family committed a crime and the family is enslaved?
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#11 - 2012-06-19 18:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
A tragic loss of human life.

In the face of so much senseless death, it's easy to cast stones, but we don't know the circumstances around this incident. Given the volatile nature of non-Empire space, the aggressors might have scanned the ship, seen 160,000 people, and assumed it was an invasion force. Likewise, we may never know why this pilot decided to traverse such a dangerous area. Perhaps this was the only way she could manage to get the slaves to safety.

Whatever the case, my prayers go out to all those that died.

Rogue Integer wrote:
As I understand it, Pilot Blake, are there not Amarrian slaves where some member of the family committed a crime and the family is enslaved?

I cannot speak for the Amarr Empire, but the Khanid have a large stock of indentured servants who are convicts.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Rogue Integer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-06-19 18:15:45 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
A tragic loss of human life.
Rogue Integer wrote:
As I understand it, Pilot Blake, are there not Amarrian slaves where some member of the family committed a crime and the family is enslaved?

I cannot speak for the Amarr Empire, but the Khanid have a large stock of indentured servants who are convicts.


I'll assume that not all Khanid prisoners are Minmatar, so yes, that goes a long way toward the sort of thing I was asking. Although in the Empire, I believe families may also be punished together with the criminal.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#13 - 2012-06-19 18:47:05 UTC
Rogue Integer wrote:
Although in the Empire, I believe families may also be punished together with the criminal.


The Admiral commanding the Ammatar Fleet had his family enslaved, the Admiral himself was executed, following the trial about failures in duty.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Idonis Callor
Agoze Fleet Systems
#14 - 2012-06-19 18:51:26 UTC
What all of you, especially those of you of Matari descent fail to remember is that more Matari die daily due to the Minmatar rebellion than in this freighter incident.

Who do you think crews the Amarrian vessels you've been gunning down in border space for these last few months?
Who Loads our laser crystals?
Who maintains our engines?
Who?

Matari, more importantly Matari who remained loyal to the word of God, i'd argue that the leaders of this rebellion should be brought to justice and tried to genocide against their own people. Us Amarrians we are not a brutal people, we are not a people who subjugate others, we merely try to elevate the Matari as a race and how do you repay our benevolence? First you rebel and commence an attack upon our empire which was annointed by God, and second commit genocide upon your own by kill those who crew our vessels. 160,800 'Slaves' murdered, go have a look at our War losses so far, i guarantee you've already butched those numbering in the millions.
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#15 - 2012-06-19 19:58:17 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Minmatar slaves may be the ones who get all of the attention from bleeding heart emancipationists and sociopathic terrorists, but there are an awful lot of Ealurians enslaved in the Empire as well.
The majority of slaves in the modern Empire remain of Minmatar ancestry. [...] it is estimated that between 50% and 75% of the Empire's current slave stock are Minmatar. [...] Aside from the Minmatar, the largest population of slaves are what the Amarr term “mongrel” stock. These are slaves with extremely mixed heritages. Some may have Minmatar blood, though not in significant enough amounts to be classified as “Minmatar” by Amarr record keepers.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery#Demographics

It seems reality is an emancipationist-sociopathic terrorist.
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#16 - 2012-06-19 20:52:44 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Minmatar slaves may be the ones who get all of the attention from bleeding heart emancipationists and sociopathic terrorists, but there are an awful lot of Ealurians enslaved in the Empire as well.
The majority of slaves in the modern Empire remain of Minmatar ancestry. [...] it is estimated that between 50% and 75% of the Empire's current slave stock are Minmatar. [...] Aside from the Minmatar, the largest population of slaves are what the Amarr term “mongrel” stock. These are slaves with extremely mixed heritages. Some may have Minmatar blood, though not in significant enough amounts to be classified as “Minmatar” by Amarr record keepers.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery#Demographics

It seems reality is an emancipationist-sociopathic terrorist.


You should quote the entirety of the article and especially what directly follows instead of citing only the part that benefits your propaganda.
Logan Fyreite
Grim Bit Interface
#17 - 2012-06-19 21:17:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Logan Fyreite
Lyn Farel wrote:
Arkady Sadik wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
Minmatar slaves may be the ones who get all of the attention from bleeding heart emancipationists and sociopathic terrorists, but there are an awful lot of Ealurians enslaved in the Empire as well.
The majority of slaves in the modern Empire remain of Minmatar ancestry. [...] it is estimated that between 50% and 75% of the Empire's current slave stock are Minmatar. [...] Aside from the Minmatar, the largest population of slaves are what the Amarr term “mongrel” stock. These are slaves with extremely mixed heritages. Some may have Minmatar blood, though not in significant enough amounts to be classified as “Minmatar” by Amarr record keepers.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Slavery#Demographics

It seems reality is an emancipationist-sociopathic terrorist.


You should quote the entirety of the article and especially what directly follows instead of citing only the part that benefits your propaganda.

Why, so that it would further enforce that Minmatar are the Majority? Last I looked 50%-75% is a majority, well I suppose unless you were looking at minmatar being exactly 50% and then you would have to have just one other "race" in there, to take up the other half, then you wouldn't really have a majority.

Instead we find that there are a handful of others that feed the Amarr slave stock. so let's assume that those "mongrels" and assorted others only equal 1% of the slave stock, 50% Minmatar + 49% Eular + 1% other, still reaffirms that Minmatar are the Majority. No?
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-06-19 21:23:58 UTC
Let's not resort to pointing fingers. Let us especially not nit-pick over the race of the slaves in question.

160,800 voices have been silenced in one fell instant. It's a tragedy no matter how we twist and turn around the fact.

I will be meditating upon this loss soon. I would beseech everyone else to do so - regardless of creed. Let us not forget that we are all humans.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Logan Fyreite
Grim Bit Interface
#19 - 2012-06-19 21:34:50 UTC
Ah,

yes,

The humanity....
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#20 - 2012-06-21 12:48:12 UTC
Republican elements using a tragic loss of life to promote a political agenda...

Can't say I'm surprised, really. Is nothing sacred to you people?

My condolences to the rightful owner of the said slaves and the acquaintances of the victims, whomever they might be.
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