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Videocard at 100c...are you serious??!?!!??!

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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2012-06-19 07:12:25 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:

Stock cooling on a lot of graphics card are fail.

I had a GeForce 9800GT in my old setup that ran too hot. I took off the stock VGA fan/heatsink, put on an Arctic Accelero S1, and zip-tied 2x120mm fans to the bottom of the Accelero heatsink.

Sure, the whole graphics card + cooling took up three PCI slots, but it ran 40C cooler w/Furmark running at 100%.

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This right here.

The dam shrouds are designed for brand logos and cool marketing pictures more than they are for cooling Roll
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#22 - 2012-06-19 07:23:26 UTC
Everyone knows EVE is hot stuff?

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Hansemandse's Clone
x13
Pandemic Horde
#23 - 2012-06-19 07:55:55 UTC
Now ive never seen my gfx card hit 100 degrees in CQ, but i will say this, CQ DOES make my gfx card hotter than ANY OTHER game on the planet manages to do!
Gtx 580 with Zalman VF3000 cooler.
Great programming CCP! (Ironic)
Savalas Madullier
KarmaFleet University
#24 - 2012-06-19 08:21:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Savalas Madullier
Running dual 1920x1080 27" monitors at max settings on both on a single ASUS GTX570 DCII. My GPU temps are around 45-49c @80-90% gpu load and I can still tab out to load YouTube. I also keep both clients on fixed screen @1920x1080. 100c sounds crazy heck I get upset when the temps go over 50c. Also to note my gpu is controlled through MSI Afterburn and fan is set at 30% most of the time.

My system
AMD 965BE 3.4 stock setting
ASUS GTX570DCII whatever it was out of the box
8giga of ram 1066DDR3
850watt PSU
All of this in a Coolermaster HAF932 tower
Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#25 - 2012-06-19 08:35:11 UTC
I bought one of these compressed air cans for a few bucks and they were a real help cleaning the comp right.
It reduced temperature remarkably but yeah, CQ still puts an unacceptable load on my admittedly not state-of-the-art hardware.
Savalas Madullier
KarmaFleet University
#26 - 2012-06-19 08:40:39 UTC
CQ Is a waste of code I disabled it long ago and never looked back. I grew tired of standing in the closet after a week of it
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-06-19 09:00:19 UTC
clean all the dust up from inside your PC

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Nihi Lismus
A Lone Wolf Inc.
#28 - 2012-06-19 09:18:05 UTC
I have a crappy Notebook and I know exactly what you mean.
my gfx is direkt unter the place, where my left hand is due playing games and i allready got burned my hand a few times...
but this does happaning just while playing two games. Minecraft and yep, EVE on nearly lowest graphic settings (1 client)

I really need a new PC
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-06-19 09:20:26 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Everyone knows EVE is hot stuff?


Specially when CCP Punkturis makes her show off around here <3

Blink

brb

Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#30 - 2012-06-19 09:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Skippermonkey wrote:
clean all the dust up from inside your PC



This, also yesterday i clean my PC, over 30min work to clean entire PC... worse was CPU and GPU fans and radiators like 3mm layer of dust, my room got tendence to produce a lot dust, espetialy while i have opened PC case i need clean PC every month, now is cooler and quieter, look at this aspect of potential heat factory...

However bad optimized client depend PC you use may increase heat... For example i run EvE multiple clients on 4 year old PC windows xp, amd 64 4600 and gf 9600gt without problem with low temperatures, while it melted my one year old laptop with windows 7 dual core, gf gt 240m , even eve is in minimize mode ;/ so i dont use it on laptop it just kill cpu-gpu after 10min form start...
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-06-19 09:35:32 UTC
Graphics options.

Set interval to one ... or two.

Caps the fps at your screen refresh or half of it.

Will lower your temp, although it's not really an issue.


What you're moaning about is actually that CCP makes great use of the gfx card,
while others don't so much.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#32 - 2012-06-19 10:29:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Azami Nevinyrall
Thanks for the input, but nothing that really answered my question. I'm hoping a Dev can help in this one, but I'm going to answer some reply's though.

Ituhata Saken wrote:
the precision program lets you manually adjust your fan curve. 70% ought to keep it closer to 80.

The fans run at a nice 100%...

Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
also important, check your PC power output, some PC's still come with crap 550W power plants when they should have 700 and this causes a lot of heat trouble on your machine. Maybe it's not that at all but check it out.

Just as I said in my original post, I'm using a 850W PS...

Skippermonkey wrote:
clean all the dust up from inside your PC


Not reading posts and just posting, the machine is 2 months old...

Ziranda Hakuli wrote:
since you live in the basementr

10 years too late...

ShahFluffers wrote:
Go down this checklist:

- Check your graphics settings. Make sure that the EVE client is running at "Interval One." I've found that this usually fixes a good chunk of EVE related graphics/heat issues.

- Update your GPU drivers. Sometimes the maker will find a way to optimize your GPU in performing certain tasks, meaning that it won't have to run as hard, for as long... thus shaving some degrees off your temperature gauge.

- Try to remember the last time you cleaned the inside of your PC. If it has been more than 6 months (3 months if you keep the tower on the ground), disconnect everything and remove all the components. Give special care to each part. Check the corners and hard to reach places too.

- Check the airflow of your computer by feeding a steady stream of smoke into your intake fans. You want to see the smoke quickly pass through with few "circular" motions and/or "stalls" (i.e. you don't want to air stream to hit anything that isn't another fan).
You also want to see the smoke quickly go to the CPU, GPU, and PCU as these are the major sources of heat within the computer.

- There are quite a few "self-contained" watercooling fans available on the market. However, they require a bit of knowhow to install so I don't recommend this for anyone who looks at the innards of a computer case and gets nervous.

- Yes its on interval 1...
- Yes, everything has the latest drivers...
- 2 months old...
- Generally the bottom and front fans are intake, and the top and back are out. With all the cables zip tied out of the way...

Thanks for all the help, but so far, the best idea is to turn off CQ...

...

Mr Chili Palmer
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#33 - 2012-06-19 10:43:20 UTC
the latest drivers are not always the best drivers, try either of these and see if there is any change 295.73 or 296.10

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Doomheim
#34 - 2012-06-19 11:45:52 UTC
CQ is a resource leech.
Unless you play docked all the time you will have texture glitches in the avatar model after 1-2 hours playing at higher screen resolutions. You either play spaceships or space supermodels...
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-06-19 12:20:15 UTC
Install a water cooling system that will have the added benefit of making you tea/coffee everytime you go to CQ
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-06-19 12:28:48 UTC
Might want to consider replacing the factory thermal paste with artic silver 5, especially if the card is over a year old. Paste has a finite life. It will tend to dry and crack reducing thermal performance. I doubt, though it'll get you below 90c unless the heatsink wasn't mounted properly in the first place.

Next look at airflow. How warm is your case and cpu running. If they're all high, might be indicative of inadequate/improper airflow. You want at least 2 90 - 120mm fans on your case. One in, one blowing out.

If you have any pci cards in close proximity to the gpu fan, move them farther away if you can.

Could replace the stock heatsink with something aftermarket.

Don't ban me, bro!

Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#37 - 2012-06-19 13:20:50 UTC
60C is on the low end for any mid to high end card made within the past 3-4 years. Most have a standard temp in the upper 60s-70s, and a few like the GTX4XX series regularly hit the 80s. The thermal limit for many cards is around 90-100C so you're still safe.

You might want to check the airflow in your case. It could be that your new card is just producing more heat, and the case isn't effectively pushing it out. Try running with an open computer (side off) and see what your temps are like. If there's more than a 5C difference or so, then you probably have some airflow issues.

Oh and you can also get an aftermarket cooler if you really want your temps to drop. Personally, I have a watercooled GTX680 that runs about 40-45C under load even with a decent overclock applied.

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Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#38 - 2012-06-19 13:29:32 UTC
I too once had a problem with an overheating laptop. I used frozen squid and a fan to cool it down.

Quality.
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#39 - 2012-06-19 13:32:47 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Might want to consider replacing the factory thermal paste with artic silver 5, especially if the card is over a year old. Paste has a finite life. It will tend to dry and crack reducing thermal performance. I doubt, though it'll get you below 90c unless the heatsink wasn't mounted properly in the first place.

Next look at airflow. How warm is your case and cpu running. If they're all high, might be indicative of inadequate/improper airflow. You want at least 2 90 - 120mm fans on your case. One in, one blowing out.

If you have any pci cards in close proximity to the gpu fan, move them farther away if you can.

Could replace the stock heatsink with something aftermarket.



Arctic Silver 5 is electrically conductive which doesn't make it ideal for the exposed circuitry around the chips on a video card. It works well for CPUs since most modern CPUs have a IHS (Integrated Heat Shield) which protects the chip and makes installation easier. A non-conductive paste like Arctic Cooling MX-4, Noctua NT-H1 or Shin Etsu X23-7783D (if you can find it) are better alternatives. Plus you might get better performance from those pastes.

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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#40 - 2012-06-19 13:37:32 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:


- There are quite a few "self-contained" watercooling fans available on the market. However, they require a bit of knowhow to install so I don't recommend this for anyone who looks at the innards of a computer case and gets nervous.

- Yes its on interval 1...
- Yes, everything has the latest drivers...
- 2 months old...
- Generally the bottom and front fans are intake, and the top and back are out. With all the cables zip tied out of the way...

Thanks for all the help, but so far, the best idea is to turn off CQ...[/quote]


Sadly turning off CQ is probably your best option. My last PC had a 580 gtx card and it ran to 95c in CQ (pretty good in any other game) - I could lower it a few degrees by turning off graphics options but really - my conclusion was that that the software was to blame and the Incarna engine is terrible.

The fact I can run it now at about 77c with over a thousand pounds of SLI'ed top of the range graphic solution isn't really a glowing recommendation for its programming efficiency.

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