EVE General Discussion

Existing capitals and supercapitals are actually working quite well now, relative to since dominion anyway.

Current owners did get shafted, investing time and effort into something that got nerfed, but that's over now.

I will say, however, that additional variation on standard capitals (carriers + dreads), if done right, could reinvigorate interest for a lot of older players by giving mass warfare some new dynamics.

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since when are people`s made up facts relevant

...how is this not more made up facts?

You remember "not having a hard time"...what does that mean exactly? "Now they are rare"...how so? How much fewer are there than there were before? If there are less, why does that not mean that people are actually buying more faster?

Again, just because you want something to be true, doesn't make it so. Try arguing like an adult, not a child.

I have to say, going from "it's my unsubstantiated impression that there currently less carriers for sale on the open market" to "nerf supercarriers" is probably one of the worst arguments I have ever seen on GD, and that is a notable accomplishment.

in reguards to the T2 carrier idea. something I was thinking was that you could have 2 T2 carriers based off of each T1 carrier hull, one would be all combat, one would be all logi.
for combat, I would guess it would just be a matter of letting you deploy more drones or something per level.


for logi, I was thinking of making a new type of drone and a new capital repairer module. the drones would be damage intervention drones (or something like that) and would basically be mobile meat sheilds to protect other ships that are crucial to the fight (interdictors, ceptors, stuff like that). there would be a few classes, the difference between them mostly being just their speed and damage absorbing capability.

small 4km/s top speed, 10k, EHP 100M3
medium 1.2km/s top speed, 50k EHP, 200M3
large 600 km/s top speed, 150k EHP, 500M3
capital/XL 80m/s 500k EHP, 2500M3

these are designed to be able to keep up with you when you are using an AB or possibly bursting the MWD to get around, but are not designed to always be able to protect you. I'm not sure about the capital/XL (don't know what name to use) EHP or if it should even be an option. I want it there so you can protect things like your combat carriers and stuff like that.

with these drones, the pilot of the carrier that launched them would be able to instantly lock any of them, but the carrier itself would have pretty miserable scan res (even for a cap). what they would do is rather than repping damage on the ships being fired on, they would instead repair their drones or be given an option to boost the resists of the drones.

these ships would also have a smaller drone bay which is turn has been used to armor the ships more heavily/install more powerful shields. this meaning that these hull would have something like 1-1.5mil base EHP.

here's a theorycraft layout for one of these ships

gallete (Morpheus [no, this is not a reference to the matrix, look it up])

gallente carrier bonus: 90% bonus to phalanx module range per level
10% to the effectivness of phalanx modules
phalanx skill bonus: 15% reduction in capacitor need for phalanx modules
5% armor hitpoints per level.

8 highs
4 mids
7 lows
2 rigs, 400 calibration

15000M3 drone bay

my reasoning for using the drone theory over straight up repairs is that then there is a significant difference from regular triage carriers, plus the drones would allow relatively weak ships to be protected to the nines quite easily. one thing that would probably have to be implemented with this is that they would have to be only one drone protecting a ship so you can't end up with invincible ships cruising around.

I'd like to see a ship that can counter supers without being a super or being a nerf//rework of the current capitals. How about a ship that specializes in taking out fighters and fighter bombers, a tech II BC maybe with auto targeting for bombers and weapons bonuses to help melt fighters efficiently.

BC's already do a good job of this, but carriers and SC's can vomit out an obscene number of drones et al.

Thought out original post and intelligent discussion so far. What is this in my GD?

I firmly believe that having capitals depend on fuel which is bot-mined to death in hisec is the dumbest thing ever. Any capital, save for a dread, can traverse the entirety of the map with one load of fuel and some extra fuel in the corp hangar. I have several full loads of fuel in my supercarrier's CHA and I can't even remember the last time I had to move isotopes to it.

Well, the Wolf is slightly bigger