Crime & Punishment

Hi, I'm very new to EVE and trying to learn about stuff and figure out what I want to do.

The other day I got really bored with missions and thought I would try to fight some people so I put some PvP stuff on my Incursus and went to the low security areas near my mission place.

The first system was really empty but I found a little miner on my scanner. I had to look up a Scythe in the market because I didn't know what it was. I used my scanner and found him but he must have been using his scanner too because he warped away as soon as I landed. I spent another 5 minutes chasing him but just when I found him again he would warp away!

I gave up and went to another system where I found a scanner frigate, a Magnet I think. While I was trying to find him another frigate showed up and I thought the scanner ship probably didn't have weapons so maybe I could kill them both. But then a 3rd ship showed up on my scanner and it was some kind of hauler that looked like my Iteron but had a different name.

The hauler disappeared very fast and then the scanner ship left. I found the other frigate at some kind of beacon but I warped to 100km the first time to scout and he was gone by the time I warped back. After I googled it, I think he "lit a cyno" and the hauler jumped in from a far away place, is that right? Could I have killed the hauler? Should I have warped right to that beacon and relied on my scanner to tell me what was there instead of warping to 100km to look?

So I was disappointed I didn't get to kill anything and went to another system where something called a Loki was waiting at the gate and he killed me. I was trying to go back through the gate and was only 3000m away! And then my pod ended up 8km from the gate and he killed that too. I think next time I should try to warp away in my pod instead of go through the gate.

Yeah, he probably aligned to something as soon as he landed each time so he could warp the instant you appeared. At that point, it's best to try and visually see where he warps to so you can follow immediately without having to use the directional scanner. Good to see you know how to use the d-scan, though.


Magnate - scanny frigate
Viator - I'm guessing this was the hauler you saw, it's an Iteron hull that can fit a CovOps cloak so it can warp while cloaked. They're pretty hard to catch.




If the Magnate was lighting a cyno, he probably would have done it on a station so that whatever was jumping to it could immediately dock. If he wasn't at a station and was moving, then he was probably at some sort of static plex (combat site), in which case, yes, warping to 100km first probably spooked him into leaving. So yes, once you have a good idea of where something that you want to kill is with the d-scan, it's usually best to warp straight to 0 on it and get your weapons warmed up .



Some pirates are just bastards like that. And yes, when you're ship is in trouble, it's best to pick a planet or something to warp to and start clicking the "warp to" button like your...well, like your pod depends on it.

Buy a pile of frigates, and cheap t1 modules to fit them with. the D-scanner is your best friend, learn it, live it, love it! When you find something, engage it! Avoid the obvious blob, but don't hesitate to throw your disposable frigate into combat with a cruiser, or bigger, because you never know what that ship is fit with! Skilled PvP pilots became skilled because they spent time learning the mechanics. You WILL lose ships, don't become discouraged! Keep at it, and you will soon have a killboard full of Saaxyness.

The alignment of your ship when your pod ejects from it doesn't matter. Best bet to save your pod is to preselect a warpable object off of the overview before you pop and spam the warp button like a muthafecker until your ship explodes. 9.9/10 the pod will nearly instantly warp. Sometimes client lag can cause your pod to hang around longer, hence the 0.1/10 chance. And yes, you will likely get podded in lowsec, especially if the person attacking you is already blinky red. I personally will, or at least try to ransom you. An average implant set costs probably around 400mil, so you maybe able to get them to pay you half of that to save the money and embarrassing loss. So yeah, always warp off your pod, immediately. Don't try to slowboat it to gate. Warp to a planet and then back to the gate if you must, or just go to station and dock up for a few.



Ah yes, the indelible f@g warp. Pirates hate it, but if your plan is to go and pvp I would *NOT* be using a cloak on your ship. It dramatically increases the time it takes to lock onto a target, and in a low EHP frigate every second counts. Frigs already warp really damned fast, and since pirates really camp a gate with frigate, tackle pirates would have to have multiple sensor boosters on something like a battlecruiser to lock you before you warp off. I suppose what you *could* do is swap out one of your highslots for a cloak and keep that gun/missile launcher in your cargo and refit once you get to your PVP destination of choice...but that might change your overall fitting quite a bit due to a cloaks very high cpu fitting requirements. I never do that, mainly because nobody has ever caught me on gate with a frigate. Not saying it's impossible, but it's unlikely unless your have something like a remote sensor booster heavy interdictor waiting on the gate.

Bad lucky buddy!

As previously suggested D-scanner and lots of frigs. I remember my first pvp kill way back in 06 was on my first toon i had undocked out of a station in curse(Day 1 newbie thinking I could do anything) and some how glitched a assaultfrig. Managed to kill him and he couldn't dock or hit me. I felt so bad for the guy I offered him a rifter which to me was one of the most expensive ships in the game.

I suggest just going out to NPC nullsec space and hanging out with people there find a friendly group you can tackle for and learn the ropes from better players then move to or find a corp in nullsec proper

Low sec pilots are the "armed thugs" and wannabes of EvE PvP. In Nullsec you will learn a professionalism you will not find in any other area of new eden.

Emphasis mine, bolded the important part.

That part is entirely incorrect. "The Stargate denies you access due to recent acts of aggression." announcement means you have done exactly as it states: engaged in recent acts of aggression within the last 60 seconds. You cannot dock or jump anywhere with 60 seconds of having activated a hostile module against another pilot, regardless of system security.

My mistake, I must have misinterpreted something I read about it and null-sec.

Simple error that has since been edited out and comprised only a small portion of what I had to share.