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F*** this game. (Not a whine thread)

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Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
#41 - 2012-06-19 02:21:17 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
Malacath Azaria wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
If you're a **** in-game, there's a pretty solid chance you're a **** in real life.


Because how one behaves in a fictional setting directly relates to their personal life.


The setting may be fictional but the interactions are real. You may not be physically hurting someone, but emotionally the impact is still very real.


And exposure to that sort of emotional impact is what the victim signed up for when they payed their $15 and logged in. I fail to see the problem with a work of art providing emotional impact.


Of course you do. Which is the symptom of your disorder.
Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
#42 - 2012-06-19 02:22:08 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Washichu May wrote:
In the end this game may serve as asylum for psychopats to live out their aggression and malice, without hurting people IRL.

However, psychologists agree that this is bad idea and that psychopats should not be encouraged, but instead enlightened that is in their own interest to try and mimic normal people, if they want to get anywhere in life. Cos it is either wall street, or McDonalds, and OP doesn't sound like someone from Ivy League. Lol


So, mr internet psychologist, why is it that that you think people who enjoy PvP in a PvP game are mentally unbalanced?


There is warfare and there is sadism.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#43 - 2012-06-19 02:22:55 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:

Hiya form alt, being all macho on the internet. You're just the coolest ever.


He does have a hood though. That's 20% cooler.
Shukuzen Kiraa
F4G Wild Weasel
#44 - 2012-06-19 02:23:08 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Stensson
RubyPorto wrote:
Hiya form alt, being all macho on the internet. You're just the coolest ever.


I'm not an alt. How is my pointing out his stupid bragging about killing a defenseless ship in anyway me being macho? I swear forum communities for all games are the worst bunch of people ever. You never get this amount of stupidity ingame...just you people who hang out here 24/7 thinking anything you say matters.

Edit: Excessive quoting removed - ISD Stensson
Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
#45 - 2012-06-19 02:23:37 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
He knew that, to one degree or another, he would be causing emotional impact. Now, he didn't know how much, but he did know that his actions would create a reaction in another person. He also knew that the reaction would most likely be negative. Yet, he chose to take the risk of causing another person suffering in order to make himself happy. Not even happy, amused.


His actions created the impact that the other player is playing the game to experience. If they've mistakenly picked the wrong game, that is not his fault.


Every bully blames the victim. Another match to the profile.
Serena Serene
Heretic University
#46 - 2012-06-19 02:24:09 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:

[...]


I didn't say there was a problem. I said the OP's actions in game probably reflects who he is outside of EVE. Then I questioned his reasoning for wanting to inflict negative emotional impact on other players.


He didn't. He wanted to blow their ship up. Their reaction to him doing so is entirely out of his control.

It's like collecting rent from someone who lands on your Boardwalk Hotel.


The "mission accomplished" comment of the OP might be interpreted as some sort of satisfaction caused by the reaction of the victims. I'm not sure the OP thinks so, so I'll assume he doesn't. But I can see people understand it like this.

I always assume that I'll maybe make people angry when I shoot their stuff (didn't do that often, so far, and only once successfully.. well) and that they'll want to get back at me, ingame, but not that they will be hurt for real.

I don't see anything wrong in liking to destroy other people's ships. But like mentioned above, I do also think it's questionable if someone likes when this action causes real emotional pain in the victim.
But the victim also should remember this here is a game where things get blown up, and if that causes such pain it might not be the right game.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#47 - 2012-06-19 02:24:14 UTC
Washichu May wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
Malacath Azaria wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
If you're a **** in-game, there's a pretty solid chance you're a **** in real life.


Because how one behaves in a fictional setting directly relates to their personal life.


The setting may be fictional but the interactions are real. You may not be physically hurting someone, but emotionally the impact is still very real.


And exposure to that sort of emotional impact is what the victim signed up for when they payed their $15 and logged in. I fail to see the problem with a work of art providing emotional impact.


Of course you do. Which is the symptom of your disorder.


What disorder is that?

Art provokes negative emotions all the time.
The Horror Genre.
Tragedies.
Pornography (the crushing loneliness after you're done: that's intentional)
Romance (the crushing loneliness after you're done: that's intentional)

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-06-19 02:24:28 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Hiya form alt, being all macho on the internet. You're just the coolest ever.


You said the forbidden word, now you're going to have it in your head for a couple of hours !!

brb
Hill Austrene
Rife Advanced Research Enterprises
#49 - 2012-06-19 02:26:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Hill Austrene
RubyPorto wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
He knew that, to one degree or another, he would be causing emotional impact. Now, he didn't know how much, but he did know that his actions would create a reaction in another person. He also knew that the reaction would most likely be negative. Yet, he chose to take the risk of causing another person suffering in order to make himself happy. Not even happy, amused.


His actions created the impact that the other player is playing the game to experience. If they've mistakenly picked the wrong game, that is not his fault.


I seriously doubt that the victims bought the game to feel emotionally like they were being bullied or taken advantage of. They probably bought it because they wanted to fly virtual spaceships.

OP chose to do something that causes other people to hurt. He did it because it was amusing to him. He didn't do it to get a killmail or to see the explosion effects - he did it to cause distress to another human. Probably because it gave him a sense of power.

It's like keying someones car in a parking lot. You don't know the person, you don't really have anything to gain, but you key the car because you know, when they come out of the store, they'll see it and be upset. Causing that pain to someone else gives 'key-er' satisfaction.

Edited for poor grammar.
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#50 - 2012-06-19 02:28:40 UTC
Serena Serene wrote:

I don't see anything wrong in liking to destroy other people's ships. But like mentioned above, I do also think it's questionable if someone likes when this action causes real emotional pain in the victim.
But the victim also should remember this here is a game where things get blown up, and if that causes such pain it might not be the right game.


Frankly as far as psychoanalysis goes I'd be more concerned about the people who get all raged up over losing internet pixels. I mean honestly this guy has likely lost less in ships in the last several months than I have in the last week. Two of them were pet projects that were rather expensive that I was testing out (Both were successful then I died in them by getting cocky :v). Who cares?
Hill Austrene
Rife Advanced Research Enterprises
#51 - 2012-06-19 02:29:58 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Serena Serene wrote:

I don't see anything wrong in liking to destroy other people's ships. But like mentioned above, I do also think it's questionable if someone likes when this action causes real emotional pain in the victim.
But the victim also should remember this here is a game where things get blown up, and if that causes such pain it might not be the right game.


Frankly as far as psychoanalysis goes I'd be more concerned about the people who get all raged up over losing internet pixels. I mean honestly this guy has likely lost less in ships in the last several months than I have in the last week. Two of them were pet projects that were rather expensive that I was testing out (Both were successful then I died in them by getting cocky :v). Who cares?


Well, it's not the pixels, it's what they represent. Which, in the case of EVE, is time.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#52 - 2012-06-19 02:33:33 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Hiya form alt, being all macho on the internet. You're just the coolest ever.


You said the forbidden word, now you're going to have it in your head for a couple of hours !!


In the Navy, sailors are Macho Men at the YMCA while they Go West where they Can't Stop the Music at 5 O'Clock in the Morning.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
#53 - 2012-06-19 02:35:13 UTC
You are a sociopath. Now I'm not condemning you, it is beyond your control, since it's genetic disorder. Not your parents, nor your upbringing, nor your environment. Those factors may act as triggers, but the real cause is that your brain is bit different then normal brain.

Now, you are not alone, nor is it hopeless. Current estimates are that 1-4% of population are sociopaths, but they are deceptive and pick out memes and company where they can "fly under radar", so if a single person notices something is off, they can attack, ridicule, use commonly known memes etc etc to justify their behaviour.

Sociopath cannot be cured, however, they can learn that if they behave uncensored, they are in for trouble, so it is in their interest (again no empathy or altruism, but self-interest, always) to learn to mimic other people, in order to have a place to live, career, sex, etc. Perhaps they should not have children. Ideal is to find a life-partner in a similar self-aware sociopath of the sex of their preference, and make a deal, so to say.

Hope this helps, don't worry :)
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#54 - 2012-06-19 02:35:25 UTC
Hill Austrene wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Hill Austrene wrote:
He knew that, to one degree or another, he would be causing emotional impact. Now, he didn't know how much, but he did know that his actions would create a reaction in another person. He also knew that the reaction would most likely be negative. Yet, he chose to take the risk of causing another person suffering in order to make himself happy. Not even happy, amused.


His actions created the impact that the other player is playing the game to experience. If they've mistakenly picked the wrong game, that is not his fault.


I seriously doubt that the victims bought the game to feel emotionally like they were being bullied or taken advantage of. They probably bought it because they wanted to fly virtual spaceships.

OP chose to do something that causes other people to hurt. He did it because it was amusing to him. He didn't do it to get a killmail or to see the explosion effects - he did it to cause distress to another human. Probably because it gave him a sense of power.

It's like keying someones car in a parking lot. You don't know the person, you don't really have anything to gain, but you key the car because you know, when they come out of the store, they'll see it and be upset. Causing that pain to someone else gives 'key-er' satisfaction.

Edited for poor grammar.


Then the victims picked a game which does not suit them, and I'm sorry that they wasted their time. The behavior that they feel bullies them is legal, anticipated, and encouraged by the developers of the game.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Flakey Foont
#55 - 2012-06-19 02:35:44 UTC
It would appear OP is a classic sick ****.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#56 - 2012-06-19 02:36:47 UTC
Washichu May wrote:
You are a sociopath. Now I'm not condemning you, it is beyond your control, since it's genetic disorder. Not your parents, nor your upbringing, nor your environment. Those factors may act as triggers, but the real cause is that your brain is bit different then normal brain.

Now, you are not alone, nor is it hopeless. Current estimates are that 1-4% of population are sociopaths, but they are deceptive and pick out memes and company where they can "fly under radar", so if a single person notices something is off, they can attack, ridicule, use commonly known memes etc etc to justify their behaviour.

Sociopath cannot be cured, however, they can learn that if they behave uncensored, they are in for trouble, so it is in their interest (again no empathy or altruism, but self-interest, always) to learn to mimic other people, in order to have a place to live, career, sex, etc. Perhaps they should not have children. Ideal is to find a life-partner in a similar self-aware sociopath of the sex of their preference, and make a deal, so to say.

Hope this helps, don't worry :)


And your Masters in Clinical Psychology is from...?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Malacath Azaria
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2012-06-19 02:37:48 UTC
Hill Austrene wrote:
OP chose to do something that causes other people to hurt. He did it because it was amusing to him. He didn't do it to get a killmail or to see the explosion effects - he did it to cause distress to another human. Probably because it gave him a sense of power.


I did it because it's amusing, yes. I did not do it to intentionally cause distress. If a person is distressed over losing a pixel spaceship then they have other issues completely out of my control that need to be addressed. The distress turned out to be another amusing by-product which is all it was - A by-product.
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
#58 - 2012-06-19 02:39:13 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:

And your Masters in Clinical Psychology is from...?

University of Phoenix®
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-06-19 02:40:08 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Hiya form alt, being all macho on the internet. You're just the coolest ever.


You said the forbidden word, now you're going to have it in your head for a couple of hours !!


In the Navy, sailors are Macho Men at the YMCA while they Go West where they Can't Stop the Music at 5 O'Clock in the Morning.



/likes Lol

brb
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#60 - 2012-06-19 02:40:33 UTC
Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:

And your Masters in Clinical Psychology is from...?

University of Phoenix®


I'm a Phoenix...


... literally, I catch fire, like, all the time.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon