Player Features and Ideas Discussion

When loss has a price, loss aversion, and as a result combat aversion, is to be expected I'd think. Fortunately the game seems to afford other activities than ship to ship PvP. If this weren't the case, then perhaps I'd have to agree. As things currently are, it makes sense to avoid something which assures loss and holds no benefit.

It's a Sandbox. Everyone has a right to do whatever they want....or to make the attempt.

No, those were not, but keep trying.

Exactly, but it is when players believe they are entitled to some odd non-interference pact that things become problematic.


Of course, and I primarily engage in those "other" activities. I spend most of my time in game running complexes and wormholes, and I am extremely paranoid and risk averse when I do so.

But at the same time I recognise the fact that the market, and indeed Eve in general, relies on a certain level of ship destruction. Risk free PvE results in the kind of mudflation we have seen in recent years, and it needs to be hit on the head before it becomes a genuine issue.

Not to mention the fact that, let's be honest, PvE in this game simply isn't challenging. While we may at times hate that we are being hunted whilst we are trying to make our billions, this is where the fun comes from. The challenge of making all that ISK, despite people trying to stop you.

If you want to pvp against NPCs corps, then why not wardec the entire empire that NPC corp belongs to and all its member corps and PC corps headquartered there?

I would compare this question to a Boxing Match.

The "Ring" is the PvP Sandbox
The Bell Rings and the Two boxers come forward and slug it out, at the end of the round they go to neutral corners.
Your requesting the ability to push the Ref aside, go into the oponents corner, and continue to pummel both your opponent, and also his manager, ring assistant, and maybe some members of the audience...

You are a Brute and a Heathen. A pathetic Bully.
You would have people quitting EvE in droves to escape from the continual buchery you would wreck upon the weaker.

My goodness, OP.

Stop acting like the carebears who have entitlement issues. If you can't wardec them, GANK THEM!!!!!!!

You can do that, you know. Just find the target, ships scan them, bring out a Catalyst, Thorax, or maybe a Tornado and shoot them. CCP will not ban you for that. In fact, they highly encouraged it. So what if you lose sec status? There are ways to get around that, you know.

I'm in a NPC corp and I had no problems shooting some mining ships. And the ironic part is that I'm a miner as well.

I've never heard Eve Online summed up so eloquently.

Bravo.

To be honest, I'm not too interested in declaring way on NPC corps. I would however like to see incremental penalties for being in an NPC corp as an older player.

As for NPC corp taxes being a flow regulator, that is somewhat irrelevant when NPC corp alts are used primarily by older players for tasks that do not suffer from taxation (like hauling and mining).

I came from an UO shard without NPC at all (except monsters), and full loot.
I think it's not an impossible thing to do in a bigger game, if players REALLY needs others players. I don't know, regulary rogue drones invasions who disturbs operations but give nothing when killed. You don't want to do that yourself, so you make a contract for a noob or two. Things like that. We already had that for harvesting with buying orders. Make more of that kind.

Without NPC, there was real consequences. Player's driven police NEVER forgot you. They can't be bait and actually have a brain... As pirates. Give the noob a choice of player's driven corps to join when subbing, it's worth all the world's tutorials. And if, like me, they don't want to be too involved (for a time), give them the choice to be independant and pay taxes (or being the Concord captain girlfriend :D )

NPC corp are too abused for being a good system, all nullseccers hides their alts in. It's not a good thing for the game. Sure I will regret telling that if they remove NPC corps, but I hope it will be for a better system. I prefer to pay taxes to players for a true protection than to an NPC system who don't care (and can't be bribe for a little "extra protection").