Warfare & Tactics

Requiring tags of an appropriate level for any LP item would work. So NPCs in a plex would drop the required tags needed to earn items in plexes of an appropriate level item.

For example: Tags dropped in L1 missions and Small plexes would allow you to buy navy ammo, cap boosters, and navy frigs.

L2 missions and med plexes with mostly frigs and cruisers would let you get the 50/50 tags needed to buy the previous stuff as well as cruisers and some better/larger navy mods, ammo, boosters.

L3 missions, mediums plexes with Cruisers and BCs, as well as major plexes with a gate ( they have most'y cruisers and BCs) would be useable to get the second previous items as well as a few tags for Navy BSs and the better/more in demand mods. Perhaps 75/25.

L4 Missions as well as the non-gated majors would drop 25% of the same tags as navy cruisersand other rewards of that tier, and 75% of the time drop the tags for the best rewards the NPC militia could offer.


For some items it is almost like this, except that it would be for MOST items in the LP store. It might also require the restructuring of the tags needed for some items to keep them scarce and rewarding for the effort to secure.

I am also ok with the removal of Ewar so long as the Amarrian navy stops perma neuting my ships and TD'ing them all the time. Kinda forces my super cheap kiting vigil ( 120k cost t1 fitted and goes 1500m/s) into the scene to do be able to do anything.

These whinefests about wahh the rats and plexing are imbalanced are ridiculous. Nothing is stopping you from making a less than 12 hr old character to take advantage of these same game mechanics. With a barrier of entry that low, the only thing stopping you from taking advantage of these same mechanics is laziness. Once they remove the EWAR from plexes, everyone will be able to farm to their hearts content.

How is a less than half a day old character to farm LP imbalanced if everyone can do it?

The faction ships you speak of are hardly free and limitless. It takes a coordinated effort to purposefully lose systems intentionally while still staying at Tier 4 so you can later retake them for 4 times the value the other side made taking it in the first place.

They made plexing have big economic consequences without first making sure it was a pvp activity. Now we have a bunch of carebears doing plexes.

Nobody could have possibly seen this coming.

But the whole point of Faction Warfare isn't to farm plexes and generate isk. If it is then let's stop all this PvP bulls**t and the Amarr can let the Minnies gain 99% control of the warzone and enjoy Tier 5 benefits for a few days and then the Minnies can let us plex it all back in an ever revolving revenue generation game. It'll be like mining with no lasers. Awesome!

If people do think there should be a reward for plexing based on effort then it should reflect the LP reward for missioning. If you consider a minor plex equivalent to running a lvl 1 or lvl 2 PvE mission then the LP reward should reflect that. Yes there is a chance that someone of the opposing faction might blow you to smithereens but gaining 10,000 LP for running that risk in a minor plex is a bit excessive.

Because plexes arent already buggy (from seasoned eve developers)? A first year programmer may figure that out when its independent of any other code. CCP may look at it or not. Just saying i think its not as simple as some people assume.

That alt requires pretty damn good tanking/cap skills to run any type of Caldari plex. Also I was testing a fit that we can use to counter your all's ridiculous farming in our back end systems without need to reship or even use ammo.

Also, while we're linking farmer killmails, here's an interesting one: http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13573778
I wonder how much SP it takes to run something like that? And to put it in context, he was easily tanking one of our major plexes.

Bottom Line: Caldari want to maintain the status quo and keep farming systems as is. Gallente wants things slightly more competitive.

I saw the stats and Caldari have 30% more pilots but barely 100 more kills than Gallente. It's a shame that the Caldari don't know how to fight and take systems by fighting. Not farming.

This is the system the gallentes wanted (Lock out from SOTF for example). Dont cry now. We warned them all about this but did CCP pay attention? Of course not.

And do you think we have even seen more than tip of the iceberg? People are already making alts for competing militias for effective farming. The flood will continue with Caldari/Matar alts dominating the skies (with bulk of the matar alts actually farming in caldari space btw).

This is what YOU wanted. This is what CCP wants (alt accounts = £$€) and this is what Hans said was good for FW.

Eventually markets will crash, then pendelum and locusts go to militia with highest profit available and cycle continues.

There is no reason to fight over plexes really either unless it's your home system.

What Julius is doing is basicly being a bank manager and screaming "stop thief!" to a bank robber (Caldari) while at the same time embezzling away the money that remains.