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@CCP : Do not cave in to Goons on Inferno 1.1

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Holander Switzerland
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#301 - 2012-06-18 18:53:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Jade Constantine wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
It's amazing how many times jade has been laughed at over his accusation that any 0.0 alliance would care about wardecs, and npc freighters explained to him, yet it's made no impression whatsoever.


Funny thing is its only really been 0.0 alliance pilots who have been doing "the laughing" (but nobody really believes them).

All we have to judge the reality of the situation is that tomorrow the mechanic is being nerfed into oblivion and 0.0 will not have to worry about it ever again.




I am going to real talk here for a minute.

-----Edit-----people I've seen yet on these forums so far.

I don't actually read these forums too often, so there might be someone else who is worse.

Like, I don't even want to troll you, because I'm not sure you are actually serious about this because you come across as a person who captures the mailmen because he thinks he is "one of them".

It's hard reading your posts because halfway through I kind of start to tune out, like this only happens with your posts. Like my brain is trying to tell me, "man, you really don't need to finish this." -----Edit-----.

Do you actually think these things legitimately? -----Edit-----

No personal attacks, please

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
Interstellar Services Department












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Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#302 - 2012-06-18 18:55:39 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
When hisec finds a way to fight back it stops being emergent gameplay and starts being something that needs to be patched out ASAP.


I wasn't aware that CCP patched out taking a 200 man fleet to nullsec and ******* with Goonswarm sov and ratters.

(Anything else is shooting stragglers or the 15 goons that enjoy highsec shenanigans)

 Though All Men Do Despise Us

Nastrado
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#303 - 2012-06-18 18:57:18 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Krios Ahzek wrote:
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
If the Goons are calling for an end to dogpiling on wardecs


Not even. That's the funny part.



So who was calling for an end to dogpiling on large alliance wardecs really ?


Nobody was. This all got blown out proportion because you once again feel slighted and have to try to seem relevant. You crave relevance and you decided to nail yourself to a cross that was not there for everyone to see. You wanted to be the martyr you wanted to be the hero you wanted to be important. Your desperate grabs for attention get worse and worse. You have not been relevant since well before you got kicked off the CSM. In the end you are just a sad example of someone who has gotten so involved in a game that he will post thousands of works about a make believe world and how important he is in it and every mini novel of a post you makes just proves the point.

I think you are starting to even see it yourself now. Part of you recognizes that you are becoming more and more of a joke to the Eve community at large. Sure you will have a small selection of people that hate goons so much they will agree with anything you say but, more and more people everyday laugh at you posts and Eve 24 ramblings. Do yourself a favor and take a step back and ask yourself is it really worth all this time and effort that you sink into you crusade for relevance in a online game? For most sane people the answer would be no.
Sixx Spades
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#304 - 2012-06-18 19:00:56 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Jade, I've played this game for possibly 4 months now. I've been in Hi-Sec, Low-Sec, and Null-Sec with my main. Hell, I've even gotten enough of a personal fund to work a Market Alt for transactions.

What I'm trying to say is this:-----Edit----- will be the day that I may consider you to be a normal, thinking individual again.

No personal attacks, please.

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
Interstellar Services Department

Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future.

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#305 - 2012-06-18 19:04:01 UTC
Nastrado wrote:

Nobody was. This all got blown out proportion because you once again feel slighted and have to try to seem relevant. You crave relevance and you decided to nail yourself to a cross that was not there for everyone to see. You wanted to be the martyr you wanted to be the hero you wanted to be important. Your desperate grabs for attention get worse and worse. You have not been relevant since well before you got kicked off the CSM.


But that isn't true. I've linked a podcast where two step specifically cites how unfair he believes it is on the large 0.0 alliances that hisec raider corps can gang up on them in Inferno 1.0.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Holander Switzerland
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#306 - 2012-06-18 19:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
In light of recent circumstance, and discovery of new information, I have updated my previous chart.

-----Edit-----

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
Interstellar Services Department
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#307 - 2012-06-18 19:06:25 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
I've linked a podcast where two step specifically cites how unfair he believes it is on the large 0.0 alliances that hisec raider corps can gang up on them in Inferno 1.0.


it's a shame that two step isn't in goonswarm or in any 0.0 alliance then, isn't it?

so much for your smoking gun l0l

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#308 - 2012-06-18 19:09:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Richard Desturned wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
I've linked a podcast where two step specifically cites how unfair he believes it is on the large 0.0 alliances that hisec raider corps can gang up on them in Inferno 1.0.


it's a shame that two step isn't in goonswarm or in any 0.0 alliance then, isn't it?

so much for your smoking gun l0l


Well he was your chosen replacement for Mittani you know. One has to assume you guys have a line of communication so that your desires for game development priority can be taken to the summit. All I am saying is that pre summit Two Step goes on record saying that he thinks the dogpile mechanic needs to be changed because its "unfair" on 0.0 alliances. And he's very much "your guy" - its easy to dig up plenty of posts with Goonswarm saying he should have been the new chair and Mittani endorsing him.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

dontbanmebro
Doomheim
#309 - 2012-06-18 19:10:04 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
When hisec finds a way to fight back


Hisec is not fighting back against anything. Changes meant to improve hisec are being hampered by your delusions of grandeur.

You are not a champion of hisec, right now you are acting to its general detriment because of your embarrassing self-indulgence.

I`m agreeing with a past comment here, you`re one of those people I`d prefer not to engage with because it is obvious that this game means far too much in your life, and nothing good for you comes out of engaging you further.

The problem is that you are attempting to use demagoguery to actually harm the people you are claiming to represent. Until you stop that, people will keep calling you on your blatant falsehoods and misrepresentations.
Holander Switzerland
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#310 - 2012-06-18 19:10:48 UTC
We're all getting a little hot under the collars here, why not settle down with some charming music from some music nerd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8uvmgkk82M&feature=related
Haquer
Vorkuta Inc
#311 - 2012-06-18 19:11:17 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
I've linked a podcast where two step specifically cites how unfair he believes it is on the large 0.0 alliances that hisec raider corps can gang up on them in Inferno 1.0.


it's a shame that two step isn't in goonswarm or in any 0.0 alliance then, isn't it?

so much for your smoking gun l0l


Obviously Two Step is in our pockets, as well as CCP
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#312 - 2012-06-18 19:11:33 UTC
"goons think the guy who got second in the vote totals ought to take over when the guy who got first gets booted" - jade's brilliant proof two step is actually just a mittens puppet

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Kyle Myr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#313 - 2012-06-18 19:12:42 UTC
Triumvirate mark 7 (Northern Coalition DOT) is more of a credible threat than Jade Constantine. Consider this. They've disbanded, reformed, lost their space, and come back 7 times. Most of the time they just shoot our jump bridges and passive-aggressively SBU our systems (they don't really mean it, you see, OTEC is best of all of us), but at the end of the day, they can actually regularly field roaming gangs that come through Deklein, kill a few people, and then get home, losing a few stragglers.

Their posting is terrible. Their alliance contains remnants of BoB, including LadyScarlet, so you know they're quality. Their renters pay exorbitant fees for terrible constellations which they barely bother to protect. They are still more of a credible threat to the CFC than you, Jade, because they at least can form a fleet, take space, and play the game.

Goonswarm has been declaring war and had war declared on it since its re-formation in 2010 (thanks, Kartoon). Our war history is public record. Spend a few minutes, scroll through the history, and marvel at all the people we've been at war with. Your 38 added wardecs are a few drops in a rather large bucket, of which we've filled maybe half ourselves.

Everything I've stated in this post is public information, easily accessible through EVE's in game interface, or dotlan's API history (or, you could even use the wonderful influence.png). All you have is insinuation and statements so thin and vague that you refuse to even make them.

Stop posting.
Arrgthepirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#314 - 2012-06-18 19:17:15 UTC
When are you going to get that WE DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ALL THE WAR DECS EVER. It does NOT hurt us. AT ALL. In ANY WAY. It might hurt a few idiots a week. They deserve it, it's funny, and they'll bounce back. We're not losing space, we're not losing our trillion isk a month moongoo, we're not having our assets locked in stations. We're not losing supers.

If you want highsec to fight back, form an alliance, and go on a roam. I know that traveling through multiple regions might seem scary, but I promise it's fun.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#315 - 2012-06-18 19:17:34 UTC
Kyle Myr wrote:
Triumvirate mark 7 (Northern Coalition DOT) is more of a credible threat than Jade Constantine. Consider this. They've disbanded, reformed, lost their space, and come back 7 times. Most of the time they just shoot our jump bridges and passive-aggressively SBU our systems (they don't really mean it, you see, OTEC is best of all of us), but at the end of the day, they can actually regularly field roaming gangs that come through Deklein, kill a few people, and then get home, losing a few stragglers.

Their posting is terrible. Their alliance contains remnants of BoB, including LadyScarlet, so you know they're quality. Their renters pay exorbitant fees for terrible constellations which they barely bother to protect. They are still more of a credible threat to the CFC than you, Jade, because they at least can form a fleet, take space, and play the game.

Goonswarm has been declaring war and had war declared on it since its re-formation in 2010 (thanks, Kartoon). Our war history is public record. Spend a few minutes, scroll through the history, and marvel at all the people we've been at war with. Your 38 added wardecs are a few drops in a rather large bucket, of which we've filled maybe half ourselves.

Everything I've stated in this post is public information, easily accessible through EVE's in game interface, or dotlan's API history (or, you could even use the wonderful influence.png). All you have is insinuation and statements so thin and vague that you refuse to even make them.

Stop posting.


We actually have a much better wardec history than you guys.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Nastrado
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#316 - 2012-06-18 19:18:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Nastrado
Jade Constantine wrote:
Nastrado wrote:

Nobody was. This all got blown out proportion because you once again feel slighted and have to try to seem relevant. You crave relevance and you decided to nail yourself to a cross that was not there for everyone to see. You wanted to be the martyr you wanted to be the hero you wanted to be important. Your desperate grabs for attention get worse and worse. You have not been relevant since well before you got kicked off the CSM.


But that isn't true. I've linked a podcast where two step specifically cites how unfair he believes it is on the large 0.0 alliances that hisec raider corps can gang up on them in Inferno 1.0.




Who? Oh yeah right someone not even in goonswarm. Jade get some help really. If they don't agree with you it must be a goon conspiracy. Conspiracy this conspiracy that. Better be careful we may have your home bugged.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#317 - 2012-06-18 19:19:15 UTC
Kyle Myr wrote:
Triumvirate mark 7 (Northern Coalition DOT) is more of a credible threat than Jade Constantine. Consider this...
..Their posting is terrible. Their alliance contains remnants of BoB, including LadyScarlet, so you know they're quality. t.

Don't forget including such RMT luminaries as Horus and his merry band.
Freezehunter
#318 - 2012-06-18 19:19:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Freezehunter
Holander Switzerland wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
It's amazing how many times jade has been laughed at over his accusation that any 0.0 alliance would care about wardecs, and npc freighters explained to him, yet it's made no impression whatsoever.


Funny thing is its only really been 0.0 alliance pilots who have been doing "the laughing" (but nobody really believes them).

All we have to judge the reality of the situation is that tomorrow the mechanic is being nerfed into oblivion and 0.0 will not have to worry about it ever again.




I am going to real talk here for a minute.

-----Edit-----people I've seen yet on these forums so far.

I don't actually read these forums too often, so there might be someone else who is worse.

Like, I don't even want to troll you, because I'm not sure you are actually serious about this because you come across as a person who captures the mailmen because he thinks he is "one of them".

It's hard reading your posts because halfway through I kind of start to tune out, like this only happens with your posts. Like my brain is trying to tell me, "man, you really don't need to finish this." -----Edit-----.

Do you actually think these things legitimately? -----Edit-----

No personal attacks, please

ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
Interstellar Services Department













-----Edit-----


Best post in this thread if you ask me.

Edit: Never mind, ISD destroyed it as always.
I feel like I am reading declassified US government documents lately on this forum, you have black tape over half the ******* **** being said.

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#319 - 2012-06-18 19:19:57 UTC
Arrgthepirate wrote:
When are you going to get that WE DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ALL THE WAR DECS EVER. It does NOT hurt us. AT ALL. In ANY WAY. It might hurt a few idiots a week. They deserve it, it's funny, and they'll bounce back. We're not losing space, we're not losing our trillion isk a month moongoo, we're not having our assets locked in stations. We're not losing supers.

If you want highsec to fight back, form an alliance, and go on a roam. I know that traveling through multiple regions might seem scary, but I promise it's fun.



It hurts you in the most profound way possible. It hurts the feelings and ego of your leader. All the isk in the world won't make up for the sting when it becomes apparent that the Mittani lost a war to Jade Constantine and needed the 1.0 game mechanics to change in order to protect him from the consequences of defeat. This is fact, public record, simply the way things are.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Arrgthepirate
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#320 - 2012-06-18 19:21:16 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Arrgthepirate wrote:
When are you going to get that WE DO NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ALL THE WAR DECS EVER. It does NOT hurt us. AT ALL. In ANY WAY. It might hurt a few idiots a week. They deserve it, it's funny, and they'll bounce back. We're not losing space, we're not losing our trillion isk a month moongoo, we're not having our assets locked in stations. We're not losing supers.

If you want highsec to fight back, form an alliance, and go on a roam. I know that traveling through multiple regions might seem scary, but I promise it's fun.



It hurts you in the most profound way possible. It hurts the feelings and ego of your leader. All the isk in the world won't make up for the sting when it becomes apparent that the Mittani lost a war to Jade Constantine and needed the 1.0 game mechanics to change in order to protect him from the consequences of defeat. This is fact, public record, simply the way things are.


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