Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I totally agree but let's expand a bit on this idea.

Unless i'm mistaking when you wardec a corp you also wardec its alliance. Now since most NPC corp are part of a faction war deccing an npc corp would result in wardeccing the faction. This means that you would be treated like an enemy militia member by the npc's (so nice navy npc's spawning at you in high sec) but also that everyone in any npc corp of said faction can shoot you.
But since YOU are the one imposing your war on people who are members of what is maybe the last kind of a somewhat "safer" haven let's use the "call in an ally" mechanic. When wardeccing an npc corp you get not only its faction on your ass but also it's allied faction (eg: Caldari & amarr). But that's still quite boring. Because factions really don't like people attacking their npc corps the wardec becomes PERMANENT with the factions automatically bribing concord after your initial bribe times out. So you'll have a perma war that only costed, what , a month times of war. Lucky you!

And to avoid exploits from null/low sec alliances using high sec alts for logistics. Being very pissed the factions decide to tighten the security and order their npc's on gates to null or low to instantly lock and shoot you. But lucky you they don't warp scram. So if you're fast enough you can escape.

And i also wonder how much it would cost to war dec a faction with god knows how many members.

But hey, i support the idea!

Isn't the real problem "alts" ?

Perhaps (while we're doing crazy blue-sky thinking here) what having any of your alts on an account wardecced by X meant that your alts (regardless of which corp or npc entity they are in) would also be wardecced?) This would presumably mean that a nullec alliance could no longer move its moon loot freighters safely to market.

Would that solve your problem?

oow another Eve is harsh Thread

ooh well Fly safe everybody toodeloo!!!!!

I would agree up to a point however NPC corps are abused to evade war decs for some alliances with out of corp freighter alts, the ability to war dec the NPC corps would certainly make Jita runs very entertaining.

However people are never safe in EvE no matter which corp / alliance they choose to join NPC or otherwise, war deccing them would turn away alot of new players, not to mention if you really want to kill a guy in a NPC corp it isn't difficult jus suicide gank there ship rather then play endless station games that this would encourage.

Ah, the People Will Quit defense.

I just want to reiterate then, that them quitting would totally stop me from playing a Draw Four on them in Uno Online.

It so would.

But I am talking about risk and reward.

NPC corpmembers are safe only in Highsec. As soon as they touch Low or Null they are free game as everyone. They profit of their choice only in Highsec. And of the three security levels Highsec offers the defined lowest reward for activities.

Higher the risk: go to Low - you are attackable with next to no consequences, but may gain higher rewards.

Higher the risk: stay in High but join a player corporation - you are better organized (= possibly higher rewards), but can be wardecced and are attackable with next to no consequences.

Repeat the thought into Null...

EVE has all these steps. They are not equal. They are all running on a risk/reward graph of higher risk/higher reward. It's all by design.

Actually, It was designed so Player corps could join Factions to fight. Not for NPC corps to fight. And FW mechanics are not in HS

No, you misunderstood me, but that was expected.

I reiterate my earlier comment: You want to hunt people in NPC corps without penalty to yourself; and that's just plain silly and contrary to CCP's consequences policy.

Join Faction Warfare!
I even did that for a bit when it came out (no, not on this character).

You don't choose what NPC corp you join, though. They're assigned by race and career path.

So that'd require making a lot of characters of the same race and career path. And I mean a lot.

And then they'd have to join a Player Corp. And then they'd have to leave.

Just to mess with the vote.

Sure it might happen, but LOL they might not even pull it off due to the legions in NPC corps.

Also CCP could just make a policy about that, such as characters newer than 7 days in NPC corp can't vote.

Institue a "freeze", any character voting yes to a war dec is automatically prevented from leaving the corp for 5 days.

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As to the people who always cry "leave them alone, let them be, let them avoid war-decs with npc corps if thats what they want to do", I say i agree, again IF those people face downsides because of the choice.

That's why earlier in this thread I talked about this being an issue of fairness. I'm a null sec guy, I won't ever be war-deccing anyone.

But out of fairness I think that if you can do ANYTHING that can negatively affect another player (like running a mission and making their LP worthless, or mining and making thier ore worthless, or taking haul contracts with your npc corp frieghter, denying that contract to a playing in a PLAYER run corp), you should be forced by the rules of the game to face the same risk (of death OR annoyance) as everyone else.

War is one of those risks.