EVE General Discussion

CCP please do not cave in to goons on Inferno 1.1 however we would like you to fix the game but not if what the goons are calling for is the actual fix

love

your playerbase

What we disagree over is that the 1.1 change is in any way shape or form a positive progression on 1.0.



You do, but not by completely nerfing the defender's ability to defend in wars against a much larger opponent with any kind of financial equivilence. This change should really have gone back for internal review until such time they found a way to properly iterate on the wardec system because as it stands it does nothing for the merc industry, and everything to the advantage of large alliances wishing to involve themselves in consequence-free wardecs.



Well but the 1.1 patches lays no groundwork whatsoever, it simply rips up the foundation of 1.0 and hides the consequence of this behind a spurious "eve isn't fair" figleaf without answering any of the questions the player base has raised.



Well there is a lot of discussion over whether this actually had anything to do with my "move" or not. Personally I think it is more likely to have been in reaction to the Honda Accord/Goomwarm/Test wardec thing that happened 3 weeks before. But really now, is Eve becoming a game where if the player base discovers ways to find methods of gaming systems effectively those methods should be removed? - I thought we were living in an emergent gaming sandbox where finding ways to bring Jita to a standstill with organized tornado/thrasher gankfieets are the order of the day.

This is the essential issue really that makes people wonder where the motivation for these changes came from.

It does look like its one law for the large 0.0 alliances and one law for everyone else.

Not even. That's the funny part.

I know this and you know this, but sometimes you just have to give up on one argument and present another.

my favorite part was when he stated it was obvious goonswarm leadership was actually terrified of his hilariously dumb plan and as a member of goonswarm leadership i was of course extremely interested in what i was afraid of, and because of that he knows we batphoned ccp

jade's response was "well clearly you're afraid because you batphoned ccp"

he couldn't even come up with a vaugely plausible reason why we would care, just "well you must have batphoned because it was hurting you, i know it was hurting you because you batphoned"

you were actually given a direct answer to this question repeatedly and ignored it because it didn't fit into your narrative

i would post it again but we all know what trying the same thing and expecting different results is

actually what the rest of us have to judge the situation with is logic facts and reasoning

not "well you must have batphoned because it was hurting you, i know it was hurting you because you batphoned" I GUESS WE'LL NEVER KNOW

the fact you can't come up with even a vaugely plausible reason makes it clear your argument is nonsense to anyone armed with logic facts and reasoning

we know they did because-----Edit-----

No rumors without facts, please.

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Well the only people prepared to admit in public they wanted the 1.1 changes would appear to be BFF people on the wardec team. (well and Keldun of Eve Univsersity) I suggest you listen to the Crossing Zebra's podcast (ep six) to get a view of what the rest of the CSM thought of this specific 1.1 change.

I guess this is why you shouldn`t write out walls of ridiculously tinfoil sperg in the first place, because then you have to defend it to the point of blatant inanity...

Oh wait, you don`t. You actual look dumber continuing to argue than just admitting you went a little spergo and made a mistake.