Player Features and Ideas Discussion

EVE is a harsh, cold, angry, bitter, mean, and many more malignant adjectives. None of which include "Safe".

So why is it that NPC corporations are immune to wardec's?

Individuals who fly for these companies are the "safest" people in EVE and i don't like it.

I think you should be able to wardec NPC corps.

Im sure considerations can be made with rules already in place about "safe havens" for brand new players in starter systems (perhaps even a starter constellation). but once they leave...

Thoughts?


NPC corps =/= Noob corps. they're different entities. NPC corps can only be entered after a player leaves a player corporation.

EVE is a game tough guy. Something a lot of people do for fun. NPC corps are a great place for casuals like me.

I agree, to an extent.

I think NPC corps should be wardecablle, but the fee higher AND toons less than 6 months old should be immune.

It's just wrong that a game like this has un-deccable hiding spots. Either npc corps should be war-deccable OR players in npc corps should be restricted from doing anything that affects the game like making isk or shooting people.

This is not a question of making people fight, this is a question of fariness.

Newbies should be protected to a point yes, but players who can affect the game in any way AFTER a newbie period (as in my other post, I suggest 6 months) should be liable to experiance the negative aspects of the game in full. One of those negative aspects is being invovled in a war.

We could argue for days about this issue, but let's all be honest with ourselves here. This is the Eve playerbase we're talking about here. I love you guys. I really do, but...



...this is all that would happen.

Very simple common sense 101: in order to have new players stay in the game they have to get emotionally attached to something in EvE for long enough to decide to keep playing & paying even in a cold, harsh universe.

If you pound them since day zero they don't even have to time to like something about this game before they are kicked out.

Also, the day you wardec NPC corps all you get is to have former NPC players create a zillion of 1 men corps. Go wardec them all.


As usual you people get it wrong.

The correct approach is to teach people to WANT to PvP, not to make game mechanics grab them by the nutsacks and hold them steady while you melt them in RR + Falcon + T3 PvP ships.

this man has a fine point.

really this is about 1 player or corp who wants to stalk another player or corp and make their lives miserable

here's a news flash, NPC corps are not safe
please feel free to gank them on the undock if you feel their crimes towards you merit their destruction

but no, nobody is going to give you license to follow some noob indy corp around new eden while you remain 100% safe in a much more powerful war gank fleet.

I'm sure you'd love decs on NPC corps since they can't request allies or set standings or form alliances
win for you eh?

You would want the powerfull navy's of the amarr empire to come down on you?

If such a change were made, many players would start new pilots who would never leave the started corp or area. If that was prevented, they would simply un-sub. That results in less money for CCP and they would have to fire people. It would then take even longer for them to fix stuff, or maybe they would only have sufficient money for persistence, and not be able to work on the game at all.

But maybe you think Eve is perfect now and CCP does not need to work on it.

On the other side, those who stay in NPC corps do pay for their freedom from war. Higher taxes, no POS capability, no possibility of Sov, no corp hangars, cannot have annoying members kicked, cannot choose who is admitted to corp, cannot declare war, cannot put up a POCO, cannot join a war as an ally, cannot (legally) shoot someone who can flipped a fellow corp member, and so on.