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Hi,

Capital ships havent seen much love lately and im wondering if something like haveing a class of carriers that can fit a limited

number of guns/missles which would definatly mix some gameplay up and the best example I have of this is Battlestar Galactica.

I love it. we should rename the triage module into something else....like maybe siege. sounds badass CCP pay attention to these great ideas we are having.

Moros called, it wants its drones back.

you guys are takeing me waaaay to literal on this and just thinking inside the box and odveously with implementing guns on something like a pocket carrier, their would be some changes to them as to what a full carrier can do, and im sure if any of you participated in capital operations you would know that a lot of corps use their carriers off grid and send their fighters in to attack a station/pos thus leaveing them defensless untill their fighters return and allies warp in to assist them if they are cought.

If you look at a lot of world war 2 carriers they had around four 5 inch guns to help protect them even modern carriers have use of some source of defence of this nature

True but they become uneffective when everything from frigate on up can orbit you ouside the range of your smartbombing.

Turreted carriers have been proposed before, and been shot down as an idea, namely because at the time dreadnoughts had drone bays. Now that they do not, Adding turrets would be an interesting idea, however their utility and balancing would be an issue. An issue balancing that i am not convinced is worth attempting to fix.

the parallels to real life are a bit disingenuous, as most of the other ship classes and abilities and configurations of ships are not paralleled in RL it is only the ship class names that are drawn from RL.

In Rl and you should wiki this, Frigates and Cruisers sizes and armaments get fuzzy after a while with ships classed as Frigates, become the sizes of cruisers, battle-cruisers are the same sizes as other cruisers or even as small as destroyers, which can be frigate sized, or battle-cruiser sized, depending on their roles and not their tonnage.

Also, Take a quick look at the battleships in game, all of them lack the secondary armament that real life battleships had, Or the tertiary armaments.

a quick check of the last of the great battleships would have something like 2x2 main canon groups, 4x2 secondary sized cannon groups, 24x1 tertiary turret weapons and 5 torpedo tubes, . (HMS Agamemnon)

which would be a fairly big change from the current 6-8 turret distribution.

Using the Missourri as an analogue to dreadnoughts, It has

9 × 16 in (410 mm)/50 cal Mark 7 guns
12 × 5 in (130 mm)/38 cal Mark 12 guns
32 × BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles
16 × RGM-84 Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles
4 × 20 mm/76 cal Phalanx CIWS

as its armament, another far cry from the 3 weapons slots (or 2x2 that the nag has)

The RL analogues that people try to bring up are wrong in terms of armament of ships. however roles are fairly universal.

A pocket carrier of the orca size would not be an amiss addition to the game. a 5 fighter ship that cant assign them, or triage would be an interesting ship to have on grid. of course it does need a better justification the "it should be interesting"
I also do not know how it would fit into the current ships lineup in terms of abilities or utility

And you obviously haven't participated in capital operations or you would know that fighters can't attack POS due to range issues... and that a carrier can instantly recall it's drones from across the system, pull them, and deploy more "useful" drones for combat (because fighters can't hit anything smaller than a cruiser)... and that carriers are FAR more useful ON FIELD with the other support ships, going into Triage mode or providing Pantheon-style Remote Reps with another carrier to the gang/fleet.

RL Carriers only had AA guns. 5in guns on a carrier is kind of stupid (aircraft do a much better job than small 5in guns). Modern carriers dont have any guns bigger than .50 cal (at least U.S. carriers), and are designed to work with smaller ships in its fleet nearby (we always had at least 1 destroyer in sight when we were at sea).

Adding guns to carriers in Eve seems to be going in the wrong direction. Prob best to bring more support.

a new hybrid carrier would be cool if done right.
say 8-10 large turrent slots(no capital turrets), combined with a decent drone bay. maybe allow it to field up to 20 drones, but regular drones only no fighters or fighter bombers.
No siege or triage just a standard capital class tank.
One of these would have tank and DPS equal to 3-4 battleships but be very weak against other capitals.
Knida like a muti-pupose ships, for real diversity allow it to equip stripminers.

^ This.

Also, no need for more caps. Titans are bad enough as they are.