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Suicide Ganking?
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#61 - 2012-06-17 18:09:21 UTC
AnJuan Jackson wrote:

Not happening for at least 26 days. KK?


Getting your stuff shipped via Orca is easy. Contracting I takes what, 8min to train?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Taranius De Consolville
Doomheim
#62 - 2012-06-17 18:09:55 UTC
AnJuan Jackson wrote:
I thought I'd ask people who might hear proposed ideas and theories on what CCP might or could do to solve the problem. I don't haul often, but when I do I tank out my mammoth and start concentrating on getting through high sec. I make 20 jumps or so without problem, get distracted for 60 seconds and BAM, suicide ganked at the gate, 300 mill loss. Yeah, yeah, EVE is dangerous and looking at a market, or a map, or anything other than the current moment will get you killed.

My question is will there ever be a steeper penalty for suicide ganking? People who hang out all day at a gate waiting for a target to make a quick profit off by killing their ship,, having a buddy loot all the stuff (which won't cause any penalty to the person helping),

... and the only worry is a 15 minute cooldown? There is no reason why griefing will ever stop in high sec if Concord lets pirates go with a slap on the wrist and what amounts to a time out. "Don't do that again or we'll take your ship away that you'll easily buy 5 more of with the loot you stole!"

Just saying... and I think a lot of people will agree is there is at least 1000% more stress put on people just playing the game without PVP in mind then gate campers who get a set up and their days of worry are over. A nice tech II ships, some faction gear, and they'll be set for life.


It's a case of CCP atempting this *we don't interfere* in eve rubbish. Because if they don't, well you can already see what's happening in null because of this.

More and more people spending time in high sec ganking haulers than living in null with there alliances. As soon as your past the null sec choke points u can go anywhere you like. Null sec is dead where as empire got more lively.

Unless CCP actually do sumthing about empire ganking then yes empire pilots will drop and leave the game, because certain items need haulers to move and if we cant do that, whats the point?
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#63 - 2012-06-17 18:19:45 UTC
The thing is there are counters to everything that happens, the problem is the counters are ineffective if you are not at the controls. People should really treat hisec just like they treat their everyday lives. It's relatively safe, yes, but you wouldn't walk into a grocery store and leave your car running or take a nap on a busy street corner with money in your wallet.

On that note, when the goons attended fed navy day, I tried to burn out to the orca. I have no idea if he warped off because of me or not but I took a little satisfaction in it. It occured to me afterwards if i waited until their gank ships warped in and timed it right I could bump them out of their intended targets range....if there was a group of us working in concert it may or may not have been effective, the point is I'm thinking of ways to counter and if I find something that works, the pursuit was worthwhile and fun. Smile

So close...
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#64 - 2012-06-17 18:20:35 UTC
Taranius De Consolville wrote:


It's a case of CCP atempting this *we don't interfere* in eve rubbish. Because if they don't, well you can already see what's happening in null because of this.

More and more people spending time in high sec ganking haulers than living in null with there alliances. As soon as your past the null sec choke points u can go anywhere you like. Null sec is dead where as empire got more lively.

Unless CCP actually do sumthing about empire ganking then yes empire pilots will drop and leave the game, because certain items need haulers to move and if we cant do that, whats the point?


Ganking is just as bad now as 6 years ago. Be thankfull you do not have to deal with M0o.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#65 - 2012-06-17 19:05:05 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
baltec1 wrote:

Ganking is just as bad now as 6 years ago. Be thankfull you do not have to deal with M0o.


Or the Zombies.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jimmy Gunsmythe
Sebiestor Tribe
#66 - 2012-06-17 21:33:31 UTC
Implying Implications wrote:
AnJuan Jackson wrote:
I thought I'd ask people who might hear proposed ideas and theories on what CCP might or could do to solve the problem.

What problem?


Of why people keep calling it suicide ganking...nobody actually dies, they just willingly sacrifice a ship. It should just be called ganking.

John Hancock
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#67 - 2012-06-17 21:44:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Jimmy Gunsmythe wrote:
Of why people keep calling it suicide ganking...nobody actually dies, they just willingly sacrifice a ship. It should just be called ganking.
Nah. By that logic, it should be called ganbloucping.

After all, “ganking” is just short for “gang killing”, but since no-one actually dies, it can't really be killing either. But then, “gang-blowing-up careless people” doesn't have quite the same ring to it.


Anyway, the actual problem is that people think that ganking is griefing.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#68 - 2012-06-17 22:00:01 UTC
Tippia wrote:

Anyway, the actual problem is that people think that ganking is griefing.


But... it causes them grief, therefor...

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#69 - 2012-06-17 22:05:32 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Anyway, the actual problem is that people think that ganking is griefing.
But... it causes them grief, therefor...
Well, that's more money in the therapists' pockets isn't it? Can't really see how or why would be involved with it in any way. I suppose that one of those get-well-gamers drives could go to something along those lines.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#70 - 2012-06-17 22:09:27 UTC
Tippia wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Anyway, the actual problem is that people think that ganking is griefing.
But... it causes them grief, therefor...
Well, that's more money in the therapists' pockets isn't it? Can't really see how or why would be involved with it in any way. I suppose that one of those get-well-gamers drives could go to something along those lines.


That reminds me, we should do a Plex for Child's Play drive. Give kids in hospitals EvE subs.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#71 - 2012-06-17 22:13:07 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
That reminds me, we should do a Plex for Child's Play drive. Give kids in hospitals EvE subs.
Well that certainly unequivocally proves it: you hate children, you nasty person you! Cry
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#72 - 2012-06-17 22:30:48 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Cant find a KM so OP might be trollin.


Is this what you're looking for?

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#73 - 2012-06-17 22:31:43 UTC
Tippia wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
That reminds me, we should do a Plex for Child's Play drive. Give kids in hospitals EvE subs.
Well that certainly unequivocally proves it: you hate children, you nasty person you! Cry


Only the sick ones.X

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#74 - 2012-06-17 22:33:11 UTC
Sarah Schneider wrote:
Posting on a thread that's pretty much the same as all the other whine thread.

PS: To OP, if your forum search link is broken, you can post in the issues subforum.


You are pretty cute, but having a neck like a football player is a definite turn off.

Mr Epeen Cool