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New dev blog: Clothing and Aurum additions for Inferno 1.1

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#321 - 2012-06-16 21:55:01 UTC
What do people think of the big double pockets?

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#322 - 2012-06-16 22:04:24 UTC
I want a proper miniskirt and evening dresses. All that space marine stuff is so 1990.

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Louis deGuerre
The Dark Tribe
#323 - 2012-06-16 23:48:07 UTC
More is good. If you ever get Incarna sorted this will become a big thing.
Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#324 - 2012-06-17 00:09:37 UTC
Guys, I know it would only take a team of 2-5 developers a week to fix Tech and revert to the previous config/adjust build ratios or introduce alchemy, but we don't think 2 years is long enough for this to remain broken. Instead we'll invest our resources and budget into more **** nobody gives a fcuk about.

CCP, Prioritising like a pro since Incarna and Inferno are boss.
Dealth Striker
Perkone
Caldari State
#325 - 2012-06-17 02:59:13 UTC
Too funny!

A person working on this clothing feature gets lets say $45 an hour to create, polish, etc. to create a possible revenue item.
A QA Tester gets, lets say $15 an hour to find/report/test bugs and bugfixes - not too mention the intel that the tester can provide on the game to the company.

I would rather hire 3 more QA testers at the expense of the clothing aspect.

I say let's get this game working properly before adding content.


Probably going to have to hire the extra QA after the 19th release anyways.
Striker Out!!
Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#326 - 2012-06-17 03:40:40 UTC
I'd like some sensible shoes for women.

Heels even on combat boots? Ugh.

BTW: Darth Striker, where do you think that CCP gets the money, other than from our (slowly diminishing) subscriptions, to pay those QAs? From the profits that clothing guy generates. So, yeah, one clothing guy gens probably in the vicinity of $450 profit if CCP subscribes to the same employee pay model the company I work for atm does. That's how many QAs per clothing guy? More than 100?
Ampoliros
Aperture Harmonics
#327 - 2012-06-17 03:40:52 UTC
Coming in a bit late, but is this...

Quote:
Existing items from before June 19th will remain in the store, for now, at the current prices so that we don’t devalue the investment that some players have already made.


...an actual concern that other players have? I mean, people buy games on steam every day that may go on 75% off sales some months later, nobody rages and demands the price difference refunded to them. Nobody sane, anyway.

I assume CCP have framework in place to handle sales in the NeX store as well and it's not really sensible to keep the prices set in stone. Why not just cut the prices across the board? Maybe keep the monocles super-expensive, as the price is probably why most people buy them anyway, but most of the mundane stuff could probably be lowered as well.

Not that i care much anyway, but yknow, food for thought.
Dearthair
Goibhniu Industries
#328 - 2012-06-17 04:07:12 UTC
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:


Tuesday, Thursday, you should just call them Marsday and Joveday, you heathen. Twisted


Nah...Thursday comes from Thor's Day..Joveday would have to be Wednesday, ie Woden's Day, or as he is more commonly known, Odin's Day. Have to match up the pantheon head to pantheon head. Tyr (from, Tuesday, or Tyr's Day), had some warlike aspects IIRC, so he's probably ok for Marsday...but then, most of the male deities in the Norse pantheon had warlike aspects.

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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#329 - 2012-06-17 04:35:30 UTC

I'd like to compliment Unifex on his absolutely brilliant sense of timing. Ordinarily I'd have plenty to say about microtransactions and all that but this week I've used up so much :care: talking about the wardec changes this NeX stuff simply doesn't register on the lowest fractional increment of my annoyance-meter.

I'm kinda joking.

But its a good step to move these things into the Loyalty point stores.
Its a good step to have them drop from loot.

I still don't like aurum obviously but I guess making it cheap as chips and letting people trade plex for the things is probably okay now the prices aren't ridiculous.

Hopefully in the future we'll have equal proportions of loot/lp store/nex delivered stuff and to be quite honest, that'll probably deal with the worst horrors of the NeX from last year and the problem will be over.

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RAP ACTION HERO
#330 - 2012-06-17 05:07:55 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Just read this at the patch notes:
Quote:

Multiple new clothing items have been added to the NeX store. These items are from our historical collection and will be priced at new price points of 100, 300 and 500 Aurum. Current clothing lines remain unchanged in price.


That's roughly 1/10th of the current prices.

I wonder to what videogames god did i pray so my hopes became so brightly fulfilled...

...but i will save the candles, incense and sacrificial critters for when I see the appropiate items on TQ. I already walked that road to illusion once and ended up with an awful crash against CCP.


look new clothes get accounts resubbed, yay!

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pugal
Omni Tech Engineering
Unstable Rockers
#331 - 2012-06-17 05:34:12 UTC
Meh so what. any way we can trade aurum for isk or plex?
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#332 - 2012-06-17 07:02:02 UTC
Solhild wrote:
CCP Unifex wrote:
Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future.

So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription.

Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live Big smile


Vastly oversimplified and misses the point.

edit: want to buy this ship I just built from the BPO I researched and the materials we mined/reprocessed?
- what do you mean, no you just bought one for cash????
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I dont think we're ready to build skillbooks yet. nor rookieships, or run the insurance companies.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#333 - 2012-06-17 07:03:38 UTC
Sister Bliss wrote:
Guys, I know it would only take a team of 2-5 developers a week to fix Tech and revert to the previous config/adjust build ratios or introduce alchemy, but we don't think 2 years is long enough for this to remain broken. Instead we'll invest our resources and budget into more **** nobody gives a **** about.

CCP, Prioritising like a pro since Incarna and Inferno are boss.


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Riffix
Synergistic Arbitrage
#334 - 2012-06-17 07:26:39 UTC
I still think it's horse armor until we have more ways to interact with other capsuleers as our avatars...

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Ribikoka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#335 - 2012-06-17 07:58:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Ribikoka
Vassal Zeren wrote:
We want content! Not clothes, content! Attention



I agree with you. This game still not Barbie Online, i think this game still should be internet spaceship game. Where should be the first, content's and not clothes. That's why i wrote earlier, ship balance first and just after then cloths.

And another thing CCP why creating cloths when no there "walking in station" contents ? I dont understand this.
Who see the cloths ? Who think that how everyone pose at mirror, when over 90% percent players turned off the CQ view ?
Nlex
Domini Canium
#336 - 2012-06-17 08:13:12 UTC
Clothes are content. Any content you, personally, don't use is still content. You might not care how your avatar looks or what s/he wears, but a lot of subscribers do, not least of them roleplayers.
Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
#337 - 2012-06-17 08:28:00 UTC
@CCP,

add some Scottish kilts please Bear

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Jayad
HIVE
Memento Moriendo
#338 - 2012-06-17 10:11:07 UTC
Ribikoka wrote:
I agree with you. This game still not Barbie Online, i think this game still should be internet spaceship game. Where should be the first, content's and not clothes. That's why i wrote earlier, ship balance first and just after then cloths.


Its Eve Online, a sci-fi simulator. Its not spaceships online or barbie online.

A lot of people don't post here. Its usually the demographic (which i belong too) who trade, manufacture, make friends, explore and generally live in the world. I represent casual players who play to feel immersed, where avatar content is very important for us and the health of eve in general.

This forum would have you believe there's a HUGE divide in the community but it just doesn't exist. I remember when this stuff was first mentioned back in 2005 (i think) and their was a collective excitement about the project. This hasn't gone away, CQ and micro transactions just muddied the water ... by lots.

There is huge demand for avatar content

Anyway,

CCP please include a range of business suites for guys, please include options to modify existing designs as well. Also i want my female main Hermia to prance around in dresses and other "feminine" clothing. Its frankly better to look at then my male character :)

Worried about art direction? I think you guys should be more relaxed about this and let the players decide. Remember you can always categorize clothing into 'Formal' or 'Informal' or 'traditional' and let future bar owners decide what dress code is acceptable! People want to be individuals, end of the day.
Celgar Thurn
Department 10
#339 - 2012-06-17 11:29:12 UTC
Finally a small piece of good news in a dev blog after so many appallingly destructive and/or user unfriendly dev blogs. Admittedly we can't do an awful lot with our avatars yet but it is logical to release into the game the many lines of clothing that have been added to the EVE market window but are not available to purchase or find. I like the idea of of pirate eg Angel Cartel etc clothing coming as loot drops as well. Good for disguises or for those who wish to work for pirate corps/do roleplay etc. I like the idea of more factional military clothing as well. More of a draw for Factional Warfare which I think could potentially become much more important once DUST 514 is launched. More 'eye candy' is always welcome especially when it isn't detrimental to gameplay or slow down the mechanics.

I'm excited about seeing the new Minmatar ship designs as well although I'm worried they may be too rounded or become too colourful. I like the new colours for Gallente ships but those colurs suit their ships. We are Minmatar and should stay MinmatarAttention

I am still extremely concerned & angry about the plans to dumb down the skill requisites for mining ships and reducing the mighty Hulk to a shadow of its former self so take the compliments above while they are going. Blink
Lamthara Lachesis
Emporio Amarr
#340 - 2012-06-17 12:09:30 UTC
I see no problems to have more choices. Honestly the more we have, better it is. Right now we only have a few looks: military, preachers, bikers and something i can't even describe...

Having the ability to customize the look of our avatars and make it really different from another one of the same race would be good.

Honestly i support the idea of the clothes-bpc. I'd be quite nice to destroy a battleship and find a scheme that allows me to tailor my own dress... or farm them to make it a "respectable" profession.

Are you planning to put some more haircuts too?

//Lam

p.s. just an idea but even if it's cool to buy the dress after seeing it in a small windows and then try it for rea (/sarcasm) are you maybe planning to change the way the avatar customization works so we can try "ALL" the dress we want before, there and if we like the way we look we can buy the clothes directly from there - if we have enough AUR indeed?