EVE General Discussion

Since you're obviously talking about the wardec assistance changes, you do realize that we didn't lobby for it one way or another, right? This will not "sever" the Jita "umbilical cord" for nullsec because people use neutral alts.

Until you can show a single post where a Goonswarm member is complaining about allies dogpiling into wars, I'm just going to assume that the basis of your complaint is based on hearsay.

If you believed these boards, you'd think EVE lived and died around Goonswarm.

The funny part being that the Goons don't promote this idea at all.

You should check some of the details of the CSM 7 campaign.

Was promoted by Mittens himself that EVE development was mostly influenced by the GSF bar bill in Iceland.

It was also questioned as to wether he was serious about it also at the time, to which he said was an indicator to the level of political influence he had, not just in jest.

Of course some people dont believe this to be true, but it was still actively promoted.

You do realize that the current status of wardecs will end causing either:
-Nobody wardecs anyone ever after, as doing so expose you to 40+ alliances joining freely the defender side, while the "defender" can still make the war mutual and lock you in it.
or
-Nobody join any war as an ally. In the situation where the defender declare the war mutual, you're locked in a war on which you have no influence.

Either the current situation will kill wardecs, or they will matter to almost nothing because nobody would join as ally anymore.

I love how highsec players are totally willing to make highsec worse if they think it'll finally make goons mad somehow

spec skills should never be trained short of IV

also, the idea that some hisec players have that this permadec a) matters to us, b) keeps us out of hisec and c) is affecting us adversely is patently ridiculous, just sayin'

Were you there? Did you witness any of this yourself first hand, or are you repeating the nonsense of others?

I don't think you have the first idea what you are talking about. People keep coming here and whining about the Goons "Wah wah wah, they did this and that and this" when clearly the only people whining are idiots like you! If it weren't so utterly depressing it would be funny.

The sad fact is that there seem to be ever increasing numbers of self appointed internet idiots, and these idiots think that because they heard something from their Uncle Dave's best friends sister's Aunties hairdresser's gardener (also called Dave), that Goonswarm are evil internet people who have, despite the fact that there are REAL financial backers pouring tens of millions of their own dollars in to CCP, managed to take over this entire game.

That is the crux of it right there. Ill informed, illiterate, sky is falling chest beaters are actually convinced that a bunch of gamers have somehow managed to perform a hostile takeover of a multimillion dollar company, through a GAME. Why don't you go away and think about that for a minute, and then when you realise how stupid you are, sit and have a think about everything else you said.

I'm not asking you to regurgitate what is clearly political campaign material, I am asking if you were there. Here's a hint. This sentence and the other ones like it are made of things called words, that's what you are reading right now, words.

Now go put your big boy pants on and use some of your own words to make your own statements about what YOU personally know. Then we can have what's called a conversation. Until then it's me talking, and you spouting off nonsense you overheard somewhere.