Crime & Punishment

welp~

Most of the guys dec'ing you are already flashy red anyways, so I doubt anyone is going to take aggro anyway if they aggro anyone in RANSM; except for FALKAN ALT FLYER LAKTOS since he's like, 5.0 or something.



I also like how you use this line. From what I've seen, the denizens of Molden Heath were once a free people. Multiple times, people have moved down to crush their spirits: such as dark-rising, Solar (chikun) Wing, and some RP fags that have horns as their alliance logo. The peoples of R1FTA, RANSM, and ROLO have stood the test of time, while encouraging this "freedom" you speak of by doing whatever they want.

So sir, are you really trying to "free" Molden Heath; or are you just trying to make it into a playground for all the toddlers in your spaceship guild?

Don't worry the cost of the wardec is not a problem.

We are not doing this for any reason other than to level the playing field as it were, most of the MH denizens are -10 so the war de c is purely to remove our GCC.

The blob is always going to be a problem but that is not our game......

We fight for fun................

Why do you fight Keldumb?

Pathetic

Yes I just dun took der jerb Lady Spank.

What the hell's a CSM?

My favorite part was how you avoided the topic of your Campaign "History" that blatantly lies about what happened in those campaigns, and misrepresenting E-UNIs part of Corps and Alliances that have disbanded over the years. Your page makes it seem like you are the sole reasons several groups don't exist anymore, which is completely bullshit. Not only that, but it includes dec fees on all of the wars you lost, so that you can try to save face and pretend it wasn't a loss.

If you wish for people to think highly of E-UNI, you might want to start by accurately representing what happened, rather than lying through your teeth.

Small tip, and I'd have expected Mr Duckface to have realised this as he's ex-Uni himself, but the member's don't have anything to do with setting policies, the SOP, or what gets chosen as a target.

If anything, those who lose stuff foolishly will learn from the mistakes, or they will ragequit, or we eventually kick them out for being stupid. It doesn't matter to any of the staff or management, and if anything gives the others more reasons to fight harder.

We used to police the SOP and members, and attempt to save people from their own stupidity, but the amount of work needed versus the 'learning experience' of losing their shiny new ship, it turns out its better to just let them die - they usually won't do it again, and neither will others who hear about it.

Still, if you want to try it out, go for it.

Ah, I did in fact miss this part. Point taken.

However, including the dec fee in your ISK efficiency calculations is ridiculous. Granted, you did note where you included it (assuming the labels are 100% accurate). Either way, skewing your efficiencies with these numbers is misrepresenting your performance in those wars, and should be removed.





When you're dealing with wars that do not involve territory (ie anything that is not sov null or over a WH), the only meaningful metrics are K/D ratio and ISK efficiency, as these are the only metrics that can be both effectively recorded and interpreted months after hostilities end. The only time the "does the other side still exist" argument becomes valid is when the other side disbands or dies solely due to the actions of the surviving side.



See above.




While I applaud some of your initiatives regarding ship reimbursement, the fact is that 99% of the E-UNI members I've come across run and hide at the first sign of trouble, unless they outnumber their potential opponent by a factor of ten or more. RvB tends to do better in this regard, but I also think they're bad for new players. Granted, E-UNI and RvB help players learn the basics of the game, but at the same time, many of the things taught, particularly when it comes to pvp, are in line with only using blob-warfare as a tactic. Sure, this is great for null-sec entities, but the reality is that the individual players only learn to follow orders from the FC and hit F1 when appropriate. While there will certainly be a small number of players who can actually think and fight for themselves, the vast majority are left without gaining any useful abilities or knowledge.

As far as the offer goes, there's no way in hell I'd join E-UNI. This is not because I'm against helping noobs (I actually take in and train them in small numbers so that they learn how to actually do things on their own), but because I would be a poor fit. I'm literally one of the bigger internet spaceship douche-bags who fights dirty, scams, ganks, and pushes the mechanics to their limits because they grant me an advantage. Besides, I would probably have to awox half of the corp to make up for the stain on my employment history.

This is possibly the worst thread related to us that I've ever seen, which is really saying something.

OP, if you're a unista, you're an absolute disgrace and should leave the corp immediately before I find out who you are and kick you.

To everybody else, the misrepresentation of facts going on here is incredible. We didn't go into Molden Heath with the aim to blob the area into submission, we went there looking for good fights and learning opportunities. Those fights were had initially and we learned a huge amount from the sniper gangs who initially tore us apart. Everybody was seemingly happy to have is in the area, until our tactics escalated beyond the point where the locals could cope. That's when the complaints started coming in, with us being told we weren't "playing fair". When the wardecs came in we spoke with Gunpoint and were told in no uncertain terms that we should either surrender and change the way we were playing or they would "drive us out of the area".

I don't know of many corps who react well to threats and we certainly didn't react well. The University has always had people trying to bully it into changing the way it operates and so far nobody has succeeded. If the MH locals want to work with us to improve the LSC program for everybody involved, then that's something I'd love to do, but we certainly won't be rolling over because they tell us to.

What a terrible way to start my Sunday. I need bacon, stat.

Its funny because you keep referring to eve uni as "WE", as you can see bolded, italicised and underlined in the following quotes





Oh, I'm sorry you mean the new wardec system that allows the defender to hire AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF ALLIES and lock the attacker into an endless war by making it mutual, yup that so favors the agressor am I right folks?



Well boo ******* hoo, isn't that the exact same thing that you have been doing to anyone with -5 or less security status in lowsec? Blobbing some poor unsuspecting battlecruiser with more ECM than the combined forces of the CFC. Spare us your biased whining.



This entire next paragraph just screams out "LOL IM AN ALT OF AN EVE UNI MEMBER AND I'M REALLY MAD THAT YOU DECLARED WAR ON ME SINCE I NO LONGER CAN RUN MY LEVEL 4 MISSIONS".



Let me just remind you guys that this guy is "in now way connected to Eve University or any of its allies"



I was going to write some witty critique to your reasoning here but its too early for me and I cant think properly. I'll edit this post later today.

As one of the Alliances that have war dec'd Eve uni, just wanted to point out a few things.

You came down to our place and set up large number gate camps... and expected what exactly? That we would give you the numbers and the gate guns?

Most of the Molden Heath pirate groups are flashy red ( as in -10.0) this gave the Uni fleets too much of an advantage, so decs started dropping. As for Capital Punishment, most of us are not flashy, but dont want to burn through what is left of our sec killing Eve uni frigs.

The dec stays til your out of MH. Thanks for livening things up though