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Why are Sansha ships missing Slots?
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Mira Lynne
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-15 06:02:02 UTC
Phantasm has a total of 14 Slots. All other Faction Cruisers have a total of 15.
Nightmare has 18 Slots. Rattlesnake and Bhaalgorn have 19. Machariel and Vindicator have 20.
Whats with the Inconsistency?
Succubus is the only sansha ship with the same number of slots as it peers.
Many players agree that the sansha Line of ships it lacking - bring the Phantasm up to 15, and the Nightmare up to 19 to bring them more in line.

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Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#2 - 2012-06-15 06:39:29 UTC
While I don't disagree that the frig and cruiser lag behind a bit, the number of slots isn't everything. For example, the nightmare does the same with 4 highs as the vindi does with 8, and is one of the very few ships in the game able to fit tachyons.

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Kaikka Carel
Ziea
#3 - 2012-06-15 06:45:25 UTC
Phantasm totally lacks a lowslot. It could've been used for Nano/Overdrive or, heck, even CPR.

Don't know much about Nightmare.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-15 06:54:11 UTC
Because they have hidden "Spike Enhancement Module"s by default.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#5 - 2012-06-15 06:54:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Kaikka Carel wrote:
Don't know much about Nightmare.


The nightmare is one of those ships with a 100% bonus to its primary weapons, like marauders. So 4 turrets effectively equal 8, and it still has high slots left over.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#6 - 2012-06-15 10:51:17 UTC
ooh extra slot or two on the nightmare sounds fun Twisted

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Algol Bailiwick
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-06-15 13:50:49 UTC
Vindi doesn't get a utility high, Nightmare does...
Moroccan Tourist
Blood Raider Cleaning Crew
#8 - 2012-06-15 13:52:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Moroccan Tourist
The ashimu has the same issue . well if we don't count high slots yeah .
Haulie Berry
#9 - 2012-06-15 15:32:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Haulie Berry
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Kaikka Carel wrote:
Don't know much about Nightmare.


The nightmare is one of those ships with a 100% bonus to its primary weapons, like marauders. So 4 turrets effectively equal 8, and it still has high slots left over.



To be fair, the Bhaalgorn gets that same bonus, and has a 7/5/7 layout (NM is 5/7/6), so you can't really account for the NM's shorted slot with that bonus alone.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#10 - 2012-06-15 22:18:55 UTC
Haulie Berry wrote:
Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:
Kaikka Carel wrote:
Don't know much about Nightmare.


The nightmare is one of those ships with a 100% bonus to its primary weapons, like marauders. So 4 turrets effectively equal 8, and it still has high slots left over.



To be fair, the Bhaalgorn gets that same bonus, and has a 7/5/7 layout (NM is 5/7/6), so you can't really account for the NM's shorted slot with that bonus alone.

The bhaalgorn also has no actual damage bonus, besides the turret-doubling effect. The nightmare's bonuses, damage and tracking, are universally useful no matter what situation it's in, whereas the bhaal's neuts and webs are only circumstantially useful.

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Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#11 - 2012-06-16 01:32:00 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Because they have hidden "Spike Enhancement Module"s by default.

I'd like if the spikes were actually useful, say, for defensive electrical discharge or something.
Then again, what if the Armageddon could ram, the Incursus had a giant gun, and the Raven's spiky things could puncture ships?

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-06-16 02:07:22 UTC
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Because they have hidden "Spike Enhancement Module"s by default.

I'd like if the spikes were actually useful, say, for defensive electrical discharge or something.
Then again, what if the Armageddon could ram, the Incursus had a giant gun, and the Raven's spiky things could puncture ships?

and the erebus should blow giant water fountains out of its top. get it? cause it's a whale!

I should buy an Ishtar.
Bill Serkoff2
Tachyon Technology
#13 - 2012-06-16 03:44:17 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Because they have hidden "Spike Enhancement Module"s by default.

I'd like if the spikes were actually useful, say, for defensive electrical discharge or something.
Then again, what if the Armageddon could ram, the Incursus had a giant gun, and the Raven's spiky things could puncture ships?

and the erebus should blow giant water fountains out of its top. get it? cause it's a whale!

huehuehuehuehue

"The Cyclone and the Drake are two ships which will basically never be good for shield tanking, primarily because they have almost no lowslots in addition to shield tanking bonuses. " -Iam Widdershins
kyrv
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-06-16 20:19:18 UTC
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Bill Serkoff2 wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
Because they have hidden "Spike Enhancement Module"s by default.

I'd like if the spikes were actually useful, say, for defensive electrical discharge or something.
Then again, what if the Armageddon could ram, the Incursus had a giant gun, and the Raven's spiky things could puncture ships?

and the erebus should blow giant water fountains out of its top. get it? cause it's a whale!

huehuehuehuehue



That would be a Whale of a time!