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How To Target Faster NPCs?
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Arcano Dentist
Wiyrkomi Heavy Industries
Caldari Alliance
#1 - 2012-06-16 14:11:32 UTC
Currently it takes about 20 sec to target an NPC. I am running a Dom. How can I target lock them faster? Or can I?
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#2 - 2012-06-16 14:17:22 UTC
You have to press CTRL + LMOUSE on the overview *really really quickly*

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Arcano Dentist
Wiyrkomi Heavy Industries
Caldari Alliance
#3 - 2012-06-16 14:39:05 UTC
Anyone with a grownup answer?
Exploited Engineer
Creatively Applied Violence Inc.
#4 - 2012-06-16 14:50:42 UTC
Arcano Dentist wrote:
Anyone with a grownup answer?


Lock time depends on your ships scan resolution and the targets signature size. Increase either, and your lock times will decrease.
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#5 - 2012-06-16 14:58:46 UTC
It's probably just the "not this **** again" of having someone who is trained to fly a battleship but doesn't seem to know about a number of basic skills/modules asking questions in the wrong forum (this should really be in Ships/Modules). No big deal though, happens all the time.

Skills: Signature Analysis (Directly improves lock speed), Long Range Targeting (Doesn't do anything for speed, but let's you start targeting further out, which can also help).
Modules: Sensor Booster (Can be fit with scripts to boost scan resolution or distance). Target Painter (theoretically, although someone else would have had to paint the target since it has to be locked before you can activate the module).

Hope that helps!

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-06-16 17:43:17 UTC
use FoF missiles trolololol

I should buy an Ishtar.
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-06-16 18:25:07 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
use FoF missiles trolololol



Nah ... Use smartbombs ... Your domi is good for that.
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-06-16 18:39:05 UTC
There are also signal amps for your low slots that will increase scan res and targeting range.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#9 - 2012-06-17 11:13:32 UTC
And rigs: Targetting System Subcontroller

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#10 - 2012-06-17 11:57:36 UTC
are you getting sensor damped by npcs? (aka are you fighting serpentis?)

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Aaewen Hrothgarson
eXtreme Co
SLYCE Pirates
#11 - 2012-06-17 12:09:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaewen Hrothgarson
Arcano Dentist wrote:
Anyone with a grownup answer?


Sorry to say, but Your original post does leave one guessing.
To me it sounds you do not actively target the NPC but wait until he gets a lock on you and your auto target back feature gives you one in return. If this is so, hes actually right on how to do it in the overview. Alternatively you can click on an enemy ship and then on the cross hair symbol in the "selected object" box, or right click on the enemy and select "lock" from the context menu.

The time to acquire a lock depends on ship scanner resolution, enemies signature, your skills and any optional boosting module you have installed. There are also Auto target modules, but you have to activate them too.
But a Dominix doesn't need 20 seconds to target a frigate, which makes one wonder how you survived before.

PS. Being sensor dampened is an option why this might seem the case, but You should see a symbol right above the ship controls then. In that case you want a longer targeting range (as dampening shorts them).
Arcano Dentist
Wiyrkomi Heavy Industries
Caldari Alliance
#12 - 2012-06-17 14:17:09 UTC
Scan res., ok thanks. And it isn't someone training just to get into a BS with no other skills. This toon is over 4 years old. This is simply a case of asking people with more experience a simple question, like why does it take so long to target lock an NPC. I don't live in Eve 20 hours a day, I have a life, family, career. Sorry if I don't know everything in this game, if it offends people. My apologies .
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-06-17 14:18:57 UTC
Scripted SeBos.
Velarra
#14 - 2012-06-17 16:16:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Fleetmate with Remote Sensor Booster + scripts.

Edit:
Actually, -smartbombs too, particularly if you are regularly surrounded by close orbiting rats. As long as you understand the horrific consequences they can bring about anywhere but lowsec / null. Finally, if you do choose to fit smartbombs, consider fitting a heavy neut (not for the rats).
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-06-17 16:57:32 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Arcano Dentist wrote:
Scan res., ok thanks. And it isn't someone training just to get into a BS with no other skills. This toon is over 4 years old. This is simply a case of asking people with more experience a simple question, like why does it take so long to target lock an NPC. I don't live in Eve 20 hours a day, I have a life, family, career. Sorry if I don't know everything in this game, if it offends people. My apologies .


I noticed you said "this toon is over 4 years old" not "I've been playing for over 4 years". Did you buy the toon? (Legally with ISK of course!)

It doesn't take playing Eve for 20 hours a day to understand the basics of targeting. This is something most people learn within the first week of playing.

It doesn't offend me but when someone asks a noob question flying a Battleship the first thing most people think is you don't have the proper skills.

I use a Sensor Booster ll with a Scan Resolution script on my Dominix
SAA Legis
Miners Mine
#16 - 2012-06-17 18:39:59 UTC
Lol, no.

You don't give a highsec mission runner who doesn't know what sig is smartbombs.

Not unless you have malicious intent.

Smartbombs will get the OP CONCORD killed.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#17 - 2012-06-17 18:58:43 UTC
SAA Legis wrote:
Lol, no.

You don't give a highsec mission runner who doesn't know what sig is smartbombs.

Not unless you have malicious intent.

Smartbombs will get the OP CONCORD killed.


welcome to the eve fourms Lol

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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#18 - 2012-06-18 15:14:34 UTC
Arcano Dentist wrote:
Scan res., ok thanks. And it isn't someone training just to get into a BS with no other skills. This toon is over 4 years old. This is simply a case of asking people with more experience a simple question, like why does it take so long to target lock an NPC. I don't live in Eve 20 hours a day, I have a life, family, career. Sorry if I don't know everything in this game, if it offends people. My apologies .

It doesn't take playing EVE 20 hours/day to gain an understanding of some of the basic functions of the game. I'm pretty sure most of us here have lives, families, and careers (I certainly do). But I do take the time to try to understand the games that I play before I get too deep into them. Had you been asking questions about alchemical reactions or something else that would be absolutely arcane to most of the playerbase of EVE, that would be one thing, but targeting is one of the first things you learn about (i.e. WTF! Why can I only target three ships?!?!?)

Next time you're online with this character and don't have much to do, open up the Certificate tool and go check out the certificates, specifically the Core Category. One of them is the Core Targeting certificate and it has several levels. The skills contained within this certification tree will help speed your targeting as well as improving on the number of ships you can target. Other certification trees may also help you to understand other skills/modules.

Also, go to the Market and type in Sensor into the search bar and see what pops up. Read through the desctiptions to find modules that will help boost your targeting ability. This works for other questions about other modules you may have in the future.

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Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#19 - 2012-06-18 15:26:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Use med size cruiser like tengu with maxed skill that boost lock, it lock even frigates in 5-6sec and 2-3sec battleships withaut additional sensor booster or signals amplifer modules, while using bs you need sensor booster, signal amplifier or rigs that boost scan resolution... Tip, train targeting skills i have 10-8 locked targets depend ship, like 10 targets on noctis, 8 on naga or BS.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#20 - 2012-06-18 19:04:16 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Signature_radius

This should help to give a better idea of why this happens (I always like every bit of information I can get).

Check out EFT or Pyfa when playing with fits as well, if you read through the manual they should give you lock times on various ship sizes.

Not sure about how a Domi is fitted but if you are suffering on lock range as well try the Tracking Computers they have a scanning script which speeds up locking but also a target range script which on some missions come in more handy then the scan script.

-flinch
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