EVE General Discussion

You mean miners will have to decide whether they want an easier time surviving or if they want high isk/hour? This is a huge change.

If they wanted to end AFK or Bot Mining, they could do what hundreds of free MMORPGs and many pay RPGs do: Add a captcha to Mining. Every time your miners cycle, they have a 1 in 50 chance of popping up a "please enter this number" type thing. Only can happen once every 30-60 minutes or so. Don't do the Captcha, your miners are offlined and you have to go dock to fix them.

You could log the failures as well, so if you see someone fail the captcha, then go dock, fix their ship, then immediately go back, well you probably have a bot if they do this 5 or 6 or 25 times in a row. Better yet: If they fail the captcha once, go back and re-online their modules, the chance of the captcha reappearing goes up to 100%.

This would be a stopgap measure, of course, designed to stop bot mining until such a time that CCP can have someone redesign the mining interface to make it fun enough to actually bother doing.

It would instantly and permanently end AFK Bot Mining. It would be trivial to implement. Why CCP hasn't done so is beyond me.

Indeed, it would be a not so difficult fix.

For the bold, here's my guess: they want to keep this semi-AFK-friendly because EVE has older players that like to "play" while focusing in other activities and switching to EVE every 20-30 minutes?

Upvote all the Grath

This will only shut them up for so long. People will still fly Hulks for maximum yield & will still be ganked by destroyers.

I cannot see how this constitutes any kind of good news. The Hulk is the only capable mining ship we have. Even if they raise the mining output levels on other platforms, they still do not have 3 turrets for strip miners. This is good for entry level people who can only fly frigates, but for those of us dedicated miners (who by the way, support he backbone of industry in New Eden) who spent the time and effort to train for the Hulk, we need some serious help.

Consider this: In the real world, in a business or a government, if massive investment ships were being taken down by solo pirates, either the ships would get better at defense or the government would step in - Notice the various governments who have started taking on the Somali Pirates lately?

So, Since CCP, the government of EVE is determined to make this a PvP - Ganking Oriented game, or to cause everyone to have to join Massive alliances in order to be in massive fleets to even be able to play the game, we can obviously expect little from them to support the solo miners and industrialists out here who simply enjoy playing the game without fear of being ganked every 5 minutes by some noob in a crap-fit cheap ship.

The Hulk needs better passive defense or "tank". Maybe the ability to evade warp disruption in order to attempt escape from a solo ganker, or survive an alpha strike first shot from a solo ganker. Let's get real - any miner who continues mining after a FLEET of ganking ships shows up in their system on d-scan isn't doing it right, and will learn the hard way. So, just a little help on this, please. Currently,the cargo bay on a hulk will either just barely or NOT hold the output from 2 cycles of the mining lasers. This is pretty ridiculous - the ore-bay should be about twice that size at a minimum. This allows the miner to focus on getting the hauler in place or move the Orca and still mine without having to drop cans while ore is being hauled away. NOT big steps, just some common sense improvements to a great ship.