EVE General Discussion

I applaud you. I like your thinking. I take you by your words. EVE IS NOT FAIR. Now prove to us that you mean it:

- Un-nerf supercaps.
- don't overnerf the ally dec systems, let the bullied bully back
- let slip the dogs of war

Or do you mean by "Eve isn't fair" that it is not fair if you are not in a large, rich 0.0 alliance? If so, i beg you pardon, sir.

best regards


PS.: trillions of isk? really?

Considering how often its being used out of context on the forums, I'd say CCP Soundwave is going to be regretting that quote for months. -.-

There already exists a ca. 130-page threadnaught for this particular flavour of carebear whinging, O blatant nullbear forum-alt.

Perhaps you should go necro that, instead of turning GD into even more of a toilet than it already is?

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Remove super-capitals from the game, already.

Because...because **** them, that's why.

Fainess, not too bothered about. All shades of grey really. Has to be some instability for dynamics to occur. Shame these arent player created however, not forced by mechanics? Anyone remember the sandbox philosophy? Only seems to come out as an argument when the sand isnt where its supposed to be it seems.

CCP being deliberatley prescriptive about the arrangements of how you are supposed to play the game and being mutually exclusive to a potentially significant proportion of their subscribers just doesn't seem commercially sensible to me. Hence perhaps why EVE subscriptions have pretty much held static for a time. DUST I suppose being the possible future rejuvinator CCP are banking on?

When you think that CCP can develop systems that can be more accomodating to more than one area of interests why are then only certain interests focussed on. The answer we tend to get is "priorities" and "manpower", lots of loose deadlines and no real promises on the direction of where things are actually going.

The only good thing you can take from that is that at least CCP are reactive to events for good or bad reasons to yourself rather than having completley closed ears to gaming development which could be criticisms leveled at other games developers.

Sometimes the failure with CCP and the CSM is that the holistical thinking isnt that important to them and we need discrete patterns of behaviour that are controllable to have a direction to the game. For good or bad as I can see both sides it seems to be an adopted philosophy.

Yet with the symbiosis of interests of EVE really you would expect there to be an encoragemet of multiple play styles that allow for growth in several areas and can feed and interact off each other. This would mean more accomodated interests, more subscribers and more supported gameplay styles.

Wether its cost cutting? Theme based? Political accomodation as a genuine gaming influence? To provide extra drama to the product? Or maybe it is just poorly designed business models working to effect these things, Or it might be that the EVE animal is getting more complicated to simply understand?, I'm really unsure. But I do see CCP sometimes simply shooting themselves in the foot with biased decisions and then pretending to be one thing or the other in the promoted material, with U turns and suprises left, right and centre.

At the end of the day however, CCP have to make a decision based on what they feel is in the best interests of the game and their pocket I guess as they are a buisness. As such triage to delaying/ excluding various interests has to be practiced by them to make any progress in development.

All the changing rhetoric from one minute to the next however is simply just subversive PR rhetoric to allow caveats to what they do. Managing expectations spoils the suprise maybe? ;) Have to say however the blog options and improvements in this area do go along way to ensure opinion is being sought. But then not everyone uses their voice here either, but that can't really be a problem CCP created, thats simply player apathy.

Your pretty much then left with your wallet being the deciding factor as to wether you agree with the direction CCP want to take things. But if they do push things in one direction or another you don't have to follow. Numerous calls to "if you dont like things then leave" or "HTFU". QED: If the game isnt for you, dont play seems to be the growing message and maybe, just maybe CCP are also tired of managing all the "politics" and meta influences griping and knipping at them left right and centre. So they simply decided to choose one side over the other to at least get a minutes silence to think? I guess questions you have to ask is which side you are on? Large alliances might be the easy choice as its keeps a large number of people happy in principle.

Life isn't fair, games need focus to drive them along. Evolution of interests will occour from time to time. Love it or hate it you wont be able to stop it, so unfair to call it out on one developer who may be practicing a themed way to go with EVE. Also you do have to remmber that the EULA actually says they can do this.

Have these people that accuse CCP Soundwave of risking his income and career for an internet spaceship guild ever had jobs

Can you imagine the whining if CCP actually took up the challenge of people whining to unnerf supercaps? The forums would collapse in on themselves.

I guess they think we can't afford hundreds of them, and that we'll be crushed by all the highsec corps holding supercaps.

Yeah, no dev would ever do something like that. Unheard of and unthinkable!

Saying "it's happened before" does not indicate it is happening now or will ever happen again. T20 gave a couple of blueprints to an alliance. Some idiots are now accusing a game designer of changing entire game mechanics specifically to provide nebulous advantages to an alliance that doesn't need them. I mean damn, if that was what he was doing it'd be so incredibly obvious to everyone else at CCP he'd be out of a job already.

T20 suffered a supreme lapse in judgement. That's not the same as manipulating several teams of people to orchestrate the imaginary domination of a galaxy far, far away, all while hiding it from your boss.

There's also the bit where the number of people in the world who'd risk their careers for an advantage in a fantasy world is probably pretty small.

Then there's the bit where if a guy did something in the past and lost his job it only decreases the likelihood of someone else trying to pull similar crap today.

Hey Raiden forum alts, you`re never getting blap titans back.

Now go back to not playing a game you refuse to enjoy unless you`re being fed a steady stream of ships in front of your invincible own machines.

Umad, bros. Usad, mros.

WOLOLOLOLOLOL

You nuts jobs throwing out accusations randomly trying to ruin the company and peoples careers need to be kick/banned from the forums and game in my opinion.

If you can prove a single thing you say then it would be fair enough but all you do is sling random **** at the wall hoping it will stick.