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New dev blog: Clothing and Aurum additions for Inferno 1.1

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Ta-Dam
#261 - 2012-06-16 10:01:18 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:

For all respected and loved alts

pls keep in mind that the overlords of this fine,fine game namely CCP will keep you satisfied with the decision to keep their main focus on flying spaceships.
Some addition made by our beloved CCP devs therefore can only be welcomed with a warm heart of love

that said ,back to topic .

My opinion on this is , sorry for you all that i have to put you up with my opinion.
but i can,t find not another way to do it
Being one of those that thinks that the nex should never be created,i hummble ask the devs to remove this mistake called the nex

edit
F*** have to change my name Oldbutfeelingsuckingup after today


Obvious troll is obvious
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#262 - 2012-06-16 10:05:39 UTC  |  Edited by: oldbutfeelingyoung
Ta-Dam wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:

For all respected and loved alts

pls keep in mind that the overlords of this fine,fine game namely CCP will keep you satisfied with the decision to keep their main focus on flying spaceships.
Some addition made by our beloved CCP devs therefore can only be welcomed with a warm heart of love

that said ,back to topic .

My opinion on this is , sorry for you all that i have to put you up with my opinion.
but i can,t find not another way to do it
Being one of those that thinks that the nex should never be created,i hummble ask the devs to remove this mistake called the nex

edit
F*** have to change my name Oldbutfeelingsuckingup after today


Obvious troll is obvious



Can,t help it i am sorry have to react civil
don,t want my replies deleted
And mister Spitfire is Boss around here

R.S.I2014
Demolishar
United Aggression
#263 - 2012-06-16 10:31:56 UTC
Quote:
We have a lot of clothing items made a long time ago that we want to start using up and which do not cost us any development time to activate in the client.
We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions.


Quote:
really see what our players think


"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do"

Releasing some Aurum clothes that you already had made is one thing. Using the fact that people will generally accept this as "OK, it's not wasting development time" to justify wasting development time in the future on MORE aurum stuff is another.
CCP Punkturis
C C P
C C P Alliance
#264 - 2012-06-16 10:39:27 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Boffles wrote:
One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ?

There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first.


When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character.

You can even spin people! Big smile

I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice Blink


Would it be weird to contract some of the more "exotic" outfits to CCP Punkturis?


yes. Roll

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#265 - 2012-06-16 10:43:52 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
Quote:
We have a lot of clothing items made a long time ago that we want to start using up and which do not cost us any development time to activate in the client.
We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions.


Quote:
really see what our players think


"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do"

Releasing some Aurum clothes that you already had made is one thing. Using the fact that people will generally accept this as "OK, it's not wasting development time" to justify wasting development time in the future on MORE aurum stuff is another.



with all respect sir
But CCP has already has his focus on spaceships and Dust
those few Devs working on something else would not hurt this focus

So you could welcome additions to this wonderfull game without being afraid of resources pulled away from EVE

R.S.I2014
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#266 - 2012-06-16 10:51:44 UTC
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Gevlin wrote:
CCP Punkturis wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Boffles wrote:
One minor point, what is the point of more cloths when no one else can see them ?

There is a dev blog talking about that issue but they have not released it yet. Probably want to get this one out first.


When you show info on someone, you can click their portrait and then do "View full body" and see clothes and the whole character.

You can even spin people! Big smile

I LOVE the new clothes, Punkturis deserves to be dressed in something nice Blink


Would it be weird to contract some of the more "exotic" outfits to CCP Punkturis?


yes. Roll



Not at all sir
You ,sir have a good choice of taste

and to the most loved Dev ,pls accept those contracts

R.S.I2014
Pahah Pahineh
Universal Ally
#267 - 2012-06-16 11:11:53 UTC
Quote:
We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions.


ah jeez, here we go again. What's the matter Hilmar forgot what humble pie tastes like?
Varg Krugar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#268 - 2012-06-16 11:19:29 UTC
- militia uniforms could be allowed as outermost layer only while the character is in said militia. (corrolary: wearing your "old" militia uniform below a jacket/coat is fine for ex-militia people)
- militia uniforms could auto-update to show the FW rank of the pilot (needs quite a bit of design/dev time)

- non-free clothes should be bound to the clone, like implants. loose a clone, loose the fancy clothes. avatar reverts back the the last free outfit worn upon cloning unless you still have another set of fancies in your med station locker. maybe add "torn fancies" as lootable trophy items at some point.

- "clothes should be made from BPCs": guess this could be bundled with the DUST514 gear production? i dont care much

- i tentatively approve of the "lets have an (optional) aurum market for anything", altho i'm sure the OTEC will try to price tech exclusively in AUR P

- yay for chucking the damsel out the airlook but keeping her fancy shoes Pirate
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#269 - 2012-06-16 11:19:31 UTC
Pahah Pahineh wrote:
Quote:
We will use this as an opportunity to really see what our players think of additional clothing options before making any future decisions.


ah jeez, here we go again. What's the matter Hilmar forgot what humble pie tastes like?


Look back through this 14 page thread : 95% of posters are in favor of clothing, 5% are crybabies who cry about everything. Where do you fit?
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Josef Djugashvilis
#270 - 2012-06-16 11:26:35 UTC
I am pleased that clothing will be available in loot drops.

I am not in the least bit interested in playing 'Space Barbie' but at least I will be able to sell any clothing I may get in loot drops.

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Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#271 - 2012-06-16 11:38:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Nestara Aldent
These new FW shirts look nice indeed however....

There wasn't ever anything in NEX store fro me to purchase, or on the other hand, nothing I bought from custom clothes off market because its all the same, and its all _with some paramilitary look_ or something.

What if I don't want that paramilitary look? What for us who don't want our avatars took like armed forces members? Until today, nothing.

Add more clothing appropriate for industrialists and faction civvie clothing. Also, more color options for current clothing would be cool - dark red/burgundy clothes anyone? Also an option to buy some clothes from the other faction - but still dont break the lore ofc (not Amarr robes for Gallente etc)
Add clothing appropriate for pirate factions too (maybe as a reward from their LP store, or I hope pirate FW that will come).
Carola Kessler
Lost Sisters Of New Eden
#272 - 2012-06-16 12:17:28 UTC
Thanks CCP.....i so liked the Latex outfit was up on Sisi for a short time

http://imageshack.us/f/252/neuesoutfit.jpg/ <----This one Big smile

Really hoping it will be available again as well Smile

mfg

Carola Kessler Smile
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#273 - 2012-06-16 12:28:26 UTC
Carola Kessler wrote:
Thanks CCP.....i so liked the Latex outfit was up on Sisi for a short time

http://imageshack.us/f/252/neuesoutfit.jpg/ <----This one Big smile

Really hoping it will be available again as well Smile

mfg

Carola Kessler Smile


Ye this is the one I want .. there was one with silver lining other with gold lining, that was awesome looking.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
#274 - 2012-06-16 12:29:08 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
RAP ACTION HERO wrote:


the only rmt activity should be players buying plex from ccp, all else gtfo


Fear to put the wallet where the mouth is?

EvE is already half metagame, half 3rd party websites talking about what happens here. Just make EvE complete and allow those who want to be able to build their own RL riches.


Handing out money to people in exchange of bytes is a tricky thing to do even if we didn't belonged to a species were chaining your fellows to a computer to farm e-money for you is deemed something ordinary.
Dex Tera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#275 - 2012-06-16 12:51:02 UTC
hey give us some cool eye patches with pirate logos and stuff on them plz
and a mini skirt
and latex
lots of latex
and some cool cyborgish stuff

plz PLZZZZZ!Big smile
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#276 - 2012-06-16 13:23:30 UTC
It's hard to get more sandbox choice-y than giving people the option to forgo the clothing and everything and stay in their pods. After all, if this were real, we would also have people who chose that route.

But being out of the pod isn't unheard of at all in the lore, the books even go so far as to portray most capsuleers get out of their pods every few days.

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Mal Nina
The Red Circle Inc.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#277 - 2012-06-16 13:25:12 UTC
How about corp logos on ships... that might get corps to actually use the micro transaction process.....all members of a corp get the logo on all their ships! I would rather have this than more clothes. Sexy ships, let me change the skin!
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
#278 - 2012-06-16 13:32:49 UTC
CCP Unifex wrote:
Good to hear all the suggestions coming in. For those in doubt, the clothes shown in the blog are those you can get in the Factional Warfare Loyalty Point store for LPs+ISK. As mentioned in the blog, we will also be introducing clothing as loot drops in the near future.

So, people will be able to get some interesting clothing items without having to spend anything over and above their subscription.

Those who want to, will be able to spend to buy some other items from the Nex store. It's all about choice which isn't something we did in the past but we are doing now. You can choose to be involved or not. Each to their own. Live and let live Big smile

The addition of the FW clothing is definately a step in the right direction, but why is CCP so determined to water down the sandbox rather than adding more to it? Is it really just about money to the point where CCP would rather add magically appearing one off shinies rather than adding additional gameplay elements to EVE via in-game mechanics?

If CCP is so hellbent on adding MT into EVE then at least make the clothing items BPO's and produced through the game mechanics where it shows you at least care about keeping the integrity of the sandbox.

Like the FW ones, give clothing some meaning in EVE, and they should all be destructable.

Tie clothing into the certificate planner as another option, where if you get to the elite level for example in certain professions as a side reward you receive some clothing items only that character can wear. These sorts of things give clothing meaning in the context of the game, oh look that person has a special lab coat they must be an Elite level Research Manager.


One other thing, MT can become a rather slippery slope for you too Unifex when it comes to monthly figures. Be prepared for the "well the numbers for the last few months have been X but now they're Y, what are you going to do about that John?" Like any additional income you start to rely on it in your budgeting and businesses are no different. LOTRO is a classic example of how they have had to monetize more and more of the game to maintain revenues, something I do not wish to see befall EVE.

Nex (Cash Shop) / Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future.

Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
#279 - 2012-06-16 13:33:15 UTC
These last several posts illustrate the desire for variety. I suppose that is my issue with the Avenue and Function pieces that feel less than extraordinary. The Sisi outfits are a bit extreme, which seems what people enjoy from what I have read in regards to what the new avatars are missing. I personally favor the other super extreme and currently enjoy the Sterling line, and would love to see even more military styled outfits. Maybe something along the line of a WW-II army long field jacket. An more Eastern styled yukata/kimono type piece would be great as well considering 1/3 of the bloodlines are Asian influenced. Naturally these things will be down the line, since there are already a list of things to do (like the loot drops) but I do feel that the direction for the future is to take the styles to the extremes as to not have the NEX clothing be visually mistaken (this is why I like the Minimas over the other two NEX shoes) with the standard issued pieces. For now I am more than happy to see the 200 mentioned in the Blog, even though that number I believe gets hit with the stuff already in the inventory tree not counting anything on the test server,

I also feel that to a small extent the Nex store is a bit of a donation hub for CCP although maybe a bit less so with the more reasonable prices on the horizon, but still a way to help support something you like. When I was younger (before cable tv) my family would support PBS which would send a thank you gift (like a coffee mug) in appreciation for a sum of money. There have more recently been some interesting "pay what you feel like paying" services on the internet, and while not usually the most lucrative approach have proven that some people will throw money towards artists they like. I have always been of this thought and have never torrented a video or bootlegged software although I don't judge those who do. When I recently got into EVE I likewise decided to buy a year's subscription (along with 6 PLEX) even though people told me that there is a good chance I can make 500m ISK a month before then. I feel there is nothing wrong with not taking this approach, and occasionally I wonder if there is something wrong with my brain, but I believe it is as simple as supporting something you love.

With 200 items (split between genders, FW, and eventual loot drops) at 100-500 AUR there is a good chance I might buy everything new in the NEX store. Are there any deals beyond the 2500 AUR bracket?
Raven Solaris
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#280 - 2012-06-16 13:36:41 UTC
Edgar Strangelove wrote:
I hope a lab coat is hidden in the works somewhere. I can't do science properly without a lab coat.


I concur wholeheartedly.