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Mining "Balancing"

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lovebus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-16 07:04:55 UTC
CCP I get that you are trying to get creative with the whole mining thing but the whole mining frigate is just rediculous. Fom what i gather (you guys can tell me if i'm correct or not) the mining frigate will be for hit and run mining where you have to stay mobile while mining. i've been mining since 2009 and NEVER had a scenario like that. As far as industry goes all that matters is the bottom line. and that is Ore gathered/people involved Literally the only Ore ships that matter are the tech 2 exhumers because of their respective niches, the orca incase you are in high sec, or the rorqual if you are in null sec. if you actually wwanted to BALANCE mining you would make the benifits of using the correct exhumer within its niche more pronounced that way you can't use your hullk in every situation
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#2 - 2012-06-16 07:09:37 UTC
The mining frigates are being introduced for newbies, to replace the mining bonused frigates that were recently rebalanced and given PvP bonuses.

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Xhaiden Ora
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-06-16 07:10:34 UTC
I imagine people will continue to try and use the Hulk in every situation and continue to be lit up for doing so as they continue to fit it for maximum yield and nothing else. -.-
lovebus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-16 07:12:42 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
The mining frigates are being introduced for newbies, to replace the mining bonused frigates that were recently rebalanced and given PvP bonuses.



i appreciate the logic. i guess i was just confused by CCP's wording. You know how they like to make mining sound so much more glamorous than it really is
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-06-16 07:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Grumpy Owly
I wouldn't be fooled by these "improvements" by CCP.

It means that the mining yeilds will be reduced overall as people might switch to solo play in more defensible ships with lower yields than the hulk due to the ongoing threat from Ganking. If they don't then the slight increase "overall" with yeilds due to lower tier ships having improvements will mean that mineral prices will fall due to the supply being better.

Then realising that to make any money from the profession you will need to be in an Organisations that employs OPs in groups to be able to profit from the exercise.

This is actually good practice for mining and is the optimum best way of doing it of course. Which does add some more defensive options if done right, with appropriate skilling and links in a fleet arrangement.

But this then makes it a gankers paradise, as they then have a concentration of targets to make profits more obtainable in singular runs as opposed to gambling more on solo targets.

Might help with ICE mining however, if the Mack and Retriever are to get a significant boost with EHP whilst retaining its relative performance.

Interestingly if the ORE frig is helpful as an avoidance to threat, it will help the null sec miners to extract ABC ores in theory as it then provides a faster ship to avoid threats whilst aquiring more profitable ores when in lower volumes.