Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I very much like the new mining frigate and the proposed changes to the Mining Barges / Exhumers. What about making a T2 version of the mining frigate that can use a covert ops cloak, in this way people could ninja mine the belts in deep 0.0 and have a lot of fun doing so.

In terms of the T1 mining frigate, please can you put an auxilary high for a cloak and at least some bonus for cpu reduction on cloaks. If you do that then there will be a lot of carebears with spirit heading into 0.0 to get some ABC ore even if you do not do a T2 covert mining frig.

No one is ever happy with what they are given...

Covert cloaks do add a lot of freedom to movement in hostile space but that is usually at the expensive of doing your primary job less efficiently and we all know that miners are about efficiency. As a frigate it should have the agility to move relatively easy within low sec with only boosted gate camps catching them. The T2 could add some other survivability features for low-sec, such as improved agility to GTFO when hostiles drop on your head.

Instead of a covert cloak it would be nice to have a utility slot or two and be able to fit a prototype cloak so you can take a break at a safe and be safe.

I'll post my first suggestion here while waiting for the official feedback thread but I'd like to see an Ore hauler. A T1 version that has a nice ore bay and maybe a small cargo bay and a covert T2 version that has a smaller ore bay but could support a small team of ninja miners.

Time to let the miners take on low-sec.

Yeah, but with removing so many features from the Orca maybe it's easier to think of it as an Iteron V but with a large ore bay and the T2 version as a Viator with a medium sized ore bay.

If it can fit an MWD and you can do the cloak/MWD technique to get it off the gate in a reasonable amount of time that sounds great to me.

I think ninja mining should mean that all fleet members have to be active and you sacrifice some volume but requiring more dedicated roles within the fleet, but in return the ISK return should somewhat higher that AFK mining in high sec with an Orca and fleet of barges. There needs to be a reward to low sec mining and it has to be high enough to make up for lost vessels.

If we can fit in a mining director in some fashion that would be cool too.

I brought this up about a year ago. I have no interest in null sec alliances but I'm bored with high sec. To make low sec work then high sec mining needs a hard nerf. That idea won't make me popular with the high sec miners but its the only way to fix the transition from high to low to null industry.

I see a potentially viable ship solution to low sec mining and I get interested but you are right. The ISK/hour for the risk never adds up.

Patience young one.

If CCP does release a T2 version it will be after the T1 version goes out and they see how they are being used and how.

Grenn Putubi, safe, who the hell wants safe, I want a fighting chance to do things, so look for tools for the job, a T2 version of this mining frigate with a covert ops cloak would drive unimaginatgive people nuts, damn all these carebears now in 0.0 ninja mining abc ores, who would have thought it.

I reject completely you putting words in my mouth that I want safe, what I want is a ship that enables me to have a chance of getting away and making it difficult for those that want to prevent me doing what I want.

I looked at your kill board and I see a Covertor loss in low sec, takes attitude to mine in low sec, hats off to you, but think about the tool you were using a slow lumbering mining barge with a tissue paper hull and no way to evade people, think about the fun of de-cloaking getting a cycle in, warping off to another rock, getting a cycle in all while mr pirate was trying to kill you.



Have you ever been in a situation belt ratting with people trying to kill you, I had the pleasure of killing rats in front of them and warping out numerous time, also salvaging faction spawns in front of them too, part of the fun is doing something just because people are trying to stop you.

But to be blunt the tools for mining like this do not exist and with people having an attitude that you can only do it by joining a big 0.0 alliance and being guarded and have a massive blue list etc., is a bit sad.

I could see a lot of bloody minded people having a lot of fun with the proposed ship, I do it because I can and part of the fun is just to do it, at the moment the odds atre too stacked against me doing this with the current tools, though I might try this with the new frigate, lets take a trip to Goon space and mine some of their ABC for lol's...

Lol you're in IRC for a reason.

What about fitting a T3 for mining with covops and nullifier ?

LOL, another member of the herd, who ignores the fact that IRC hangs in there while many others have caved in, yeah damn right I am in IRC for a reason, I respect them for hanging tough and put myself in that firing line, you however talk a good game but a 54.65% efficiency ratio compared to my 93.1% says otherwise, but don't let facts get in the way of a Goon herd like comment. Edit: Your corp has a lower efficiency then IRC, lol back to you...

Would you really want to use a T3 worth around 750m for this when you could use a ship which has the same cost as a Cheetah, that make any sense to you?