EVE New Citizens Q&A

You most likely have plenty of ship to do those missions in a timely fashion. You probably don't have the knowledge/experience to know how to fit them just yet.

Were you to make a post to the effect of, "I am doing rookie missions and need some help with fittings, here are my skills and the ship I'm using..." you would probably get some help.




Newbies are off limit in certain "Rookie" systems. Concord is there to provide consequences, not to protect you - though in the case of the OP, corpkilling is considered legitimate play and Concord will not intervene at all.



Unless they are in low security space, or active in a war, you should be perfectly safe traveling to them. Short of doing something stupid (going into low security, shooting at someone, falling for canbait, etc.), you're pretty safe in high sec by virtue of the fact that you're not worth suiciding over. . Set destination to their system, check the route, if you don't see any red systems in the route, hit the autopilot button and go make a sandwich (this will prevent you from doing any of the aforementioned stupid things along the way). Just make sure they aren't in any wars, first.



Losing things is just a way of life in Eve. Eventually you learn to manage your assets in such a fashion that, on average, you're gaining more than you're losing, at which point you view the losses as a simple business cost.

Also, to the OP:

The guys who killed you are pretty obviously scrubs to the nth degree - flies that any reasonably experienced player could swat with trivial ease.

I'm sure you could find someone who would be more than happy to flip their tactics on them for justice and lulz (mostly the lulz).

I might do it myself, just for giggles.

U mad bro?

First , at risk from Hi Jacking this thread, I would like to thank you for the helpful replys, and not with the usual sarcasm you often get in forums.

TBH, I wanted to be in S*** T****online, but the program was so full of bugs, it actually damaged my Acer 19th monitor i bought on Ebay, after the program screwed all the graphics, resololutions, colours gamma, were badly affected, Had to do a system restore to get the screen back, but the desk top was oversaturated with white, and after spending hours in monitor settings and the nvidia control panel, I had to chuck it out and go back to my old 17inch Samsung.

I know its irrelavent, but, just a warning dont install the S**T** online .exe program, if you dont want same to happen to you.

On the knowledge of fitting, I think I planned ahead early, even as a newbie, I fitted and learnt the skills to install, both a heat sink shield, the basic shield, the afterburner, small hull repairer and the basic armour repairer on my Atron. I fitted more than was needed in weapons at the start with dual lasers using the "Radio" ammo, for shorter distances i ffited a Higher end gatling gun, firing projectiles at 6000m, while the dual lazers were 14k optimal. the problem was that the ships computor said I couldnt use hallf of these items at same time, because my power output was not enough to run them, which was dissapointing, to get an upgraded CPU was way out of my pocket, and it needed skills, that would take maybe 2 days, although the missions bonus would run out in 5 hours..

In other games, team killing,or grefing members of same side, are considered violations of the TOS you sign up for, But other games like this and in particualar Dark orbit, where venus Ships gank certain star gates, and allow, P*** off players to shoot at each other is considered fair game.

I found the "go make a sandwhich" while on autopilot quite funny

Not quite understand what "can Bait" is yet, but take it , it means a cargo container, thats lootable, but may mean an ambush, but i thought the colours of these, were meant to inform you if you can loot them without beig shot at, namely blue ones, funnily enough, I got a tasty can of Rare Roe, when i looted one of Wolfs ships, worth quite a bit:P

The position on leaving space dock, and leaving behind what i didnt really need, was a lesson i learnt on my second day, having lost a ship to sentry guns, I could have saved half the fittings if i had left them at the item hanger.

One thing im not clear on, is the IDK lost from being destroyed?

Is that all the IDK you have in your Account,? or are we talking about much bigger ships like freighters, that could carry a lot of valuable items. I am under the imprssion from the OP that you lose all your IDKS you own?

learning to protect and manage ones assets, is obvioulsy going to be a steep and needed learning curve.

Being in a corp Or a faction has its fors and againsts, In WoW, I found being in a good one, was a great asset, earning faction gold, recieving payouts for succesful raids. here, I found as soon as i joined the corp, I was bombarded with messages about items, systems, help to join battles, successes and kill ratios, which as a noob, made little sense yet.
However i was picked by the leader of this corp, which seems pretty much respected, and I think i made the right choice,.

I also had the honour of an PM from Admiral Patton, asking me how I was getting on. My bio does list a hefty career in this type of game, being an officer, Admin,mentor, faction leader, and my main skill is Diplomatic relations, which I still negotiate in other games to this day.

Lastly, its good to know, that maybe I can travel to my corp headquaters, without much trouble, but there are at war with some one some where, I alos had to travel through 4 gates for a mission to find an area, had a red marker across the system info, saying the concord can not gurantee safety here, because of an incursion, I take it, that means an invasion of sorts?

Anyway Im reconsidering returning, and biting my lip and paying the dues, but I cant buy PLEX, which would have bypassed paypal, because im stil lon trial a few more days, Im not allowed to buy PLEX on a trial..... thats what annoys me somewhat about these companys beeing greedy , like EA is.

Anyway sorry for long posting, and I absolutly "hate" being a newbie, Im very career minded in these games, and want to advance as soon as possible.

Cheers for the comments

^^ Wat?

Yeah, see, you broke a few basic fitting rules just in that paragraph.

First of all, forget the hull repper. As a defensive module, it's useless. It only repairs structure damage, and if you're in structure, you likely have Big Problems. It's mostly useful for repairing any structure damage you sustained while you're poor enough that you don't want to pay for station repair services.

A few things:

-Fitting defenses in Eve typically revolves around tanking on either your armor, or your shield, but never both (except in some extreme edge cases that are not applicable to you - e.g., fitting a "bait" ship with absolute maximum tank). If you have both shield modules and armor modules fit, you're almost certainly hindering your overall combat performance.

-The Atron is the base hull for Gallente interceptors. It's not a particularly strong brawler- it's meant to be a fast mover.

-Ships are meant to be used with certain weapon systems and usually get a bonus to that weapon platform. You *can* fit other weapon systems (sometimes to great effect), but for the most part, you want to be using the weapon system your ship was designed for. In the case of gallente ships like the Atron, that means Hybrids - blasters or railguns. No lasers, no autocannons, no artillery.

-The atron can field 1 light drone. Use it. :D

If you can afford one, get an Incursus. It was recently buffed and is probably the best all-around frigate for Gallente right now. The Tristan isn't awful, but has a split weapon system that isn't going to do you any favors.

Pretty much agree with everyone about "That's how EVE is."

With that said, is there a tutorial or in-game information concerning joining a Corp and the aggression dynamics unique to that action? OP seems to have been TOTALLY unaware corpicide was possible. While I usually turn to Google and eveonline.com to help unspool some of the strange components in this game, I imagine a lot of other new players may not really be aware that there is information about the basic rules of the game located outside of the game.

Would it be totally abhorent for CCP to create an Aura tutorial that pops up when one chooses to join a Player Corp? There may already be one in game, but I haven't joined a Corp in a while to remember.

As a new pilot - I'm playing Eve for about two months and this is my first post at the forums - my opinion regarding this thread is that a few new pilot exaggerates too much and that a few veterans... well, do exactly the same.

What happened to the OP seems to me, not because I'm experienced at Eve but just by common sense, a most hazardous kind of thing. (and I must admit, that - if with me - after the initial promises of revenging and curse them until the end of times, nothing would last but a good laugh).
Basically you won a weird kind of reverse lottery, my friend.

Many people have demonstrated already their disposition to help. Time to move on, OP. Dozens of Retrievers are waiting for you if that's so important.

What I really would like to see is the the guy that made it to post here, replying to you

I'm new to the game too.

I've been through the tutorial process in its entirety once, and I'm going through it again on this newer character. I also pay attention to the newbie chat every time I log in. Every day I play, several things are made abundantly clear to me through the forums, the chat, the wiki, and the tutorial process:

1. Trust no one
2. Always expect the worst
3. Prepare as best as you can to mitigate against the worst, should it happen
4. Take it slow and steady--the game is designed to inhibit rushing toward your goals, it not only wants you to take your time, it often forces you to do so
5. The world is unforgiving, dog-eat-dog, no holds barred (much like the real world)--scammers, pirates, con-artists, soldiers, mercs, sociopaths, moral bankruptcy, injustice--all of these things exist in EVE in abundance, just as they do in the real world. This is something of a catch-22, as it adds a whole new level to this game that most other games completely lack, but it makes it that much more difficult.
6. You're never safe... unless perhaps you're docked, but even when docked you can get conned.

In any case, you were bound to have someone try to pull a lick on you eventually, and while I sympathize with your situation and certainly don't encourage the act of taking advantage of new players, it is what it is. They orchestrated a plan and executed it. Learn from it and be better because of it.. and enjoy the opportunities you have to mete out revenge if you so desire--the game provides many ways for you to do this.

That being said, I hope what goes around comes around and karma bites them in the ass.

I would like to remind everyone to keep comments constructive and on topic. I have cleaned the thread up a bit.