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New dev blog: Clothing and Aurum additions for Inferno 1.1

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Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#121 - 2012-06-15 19:34:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelgrivion
I wanted to bring up a long standing point (and contention) with the NEX store, and it seems like a good opportunity to do so given the fresh eyes of the esteemed CCP Unifex.

Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players, after the Incarna debacle and whatnot. One of the major needs of a microtransaction game is a way to acquire the goods for free. While PLEX conversion does give the opportunity for players to acquire Aurum without paying cash, the situation remains that it is impossible to acquire Aurum without having someone spend cash on them. Given the march of time, I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.

At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.

What do you think?
None ofthe Above
#122 - 2012-06-15 19:43:47 UTC
I think this is a good measured step at finding a path forward for NEX, AUR and avatars past the wounds of Incarna

Love the FW angle. FW Uniforms without involving AUR is a great idea.

Letting the art assets be released rather than sitting around is very good too. Must have been frustrating for the people that worked on them.

Have to wait and see on new pricing with the NEX and AUR. Do like the trend towards actual microtransactions, even if I would prefer to pay in ISK.

Re: Peoples investment and keeping the old pricing for old items. Probably the right move for now. In the long run, early adopters commonly pay more for things and the market settles down to cheaper more reasonable prices over time. That's fine. Probably best to have patience on this respect though. Honestly I doubt few folks have purchased clothing as investment opportunities, if they did there was plenty if indications that this was a potentially risky investment. So wouldn't worry too terribly much about that, but patience and slow change is advised.

Anyway, thanks for the courage to revisit this. Looking forward to seeing how it works out.

CCP Unifex wrote:
Valeo Galaem wrote:

Hint: start by giving out something wearable to new players when they complete the tutorial.


Great idea, will pass this on to the guys working on NPE.


Graduation cap and gown? (Sorry for the inevitable hats digression)

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Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#123 - 2012-06-15 19:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Dezolf
Am I the only one wondering what "Nexon" is? o.O

Edit:
Also, when can we have MOAR piercings at random locations of ones face? You know, like the old minmatar.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#124 - 2012-06-15 19:50:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
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June 19th? As in next thursday?

Then I am so bloomingly happy to have reactivated this account for precisely this month... Lol

No, June 19th is on Tuesday


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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2012-06-15 19:54:40 UTC
Evelgrivion wrote:

Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players


Aurum is still a very sore spot for a small but very vocal number of players.

There, that's more like the truth.
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Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#126 - 2012-06-15 19:54:50 UTC
CCP Unifex wrote:
Swidgen wrote:
Brunaburh wrote:
Seems like the only thing missing is a miniskirt...

and little mirrors for your shoes


I hear some people are also pretty keen on various types of hat.


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Hi I want a nice red beret, a top hat and JUST MAKE SOME HATS SHEESH!!

Seriously, very pleased with this approach. The CSM was consulted on this at the summit and I'm happy to see things moving forward in a very sensible way.

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2012-06-15 19:55:36 UTC
Dezolf wrote:
Am I the only one wondering what "Nexon" is? o.O



The Nexon Valdez, a freighter carrying PI products that got suicide ganked near an ice planet.
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Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#128 - 2012-06-15 20:00:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelgrivion
J3ssica Alba wrote:
Aurum is still a very sore spot for a small but very vocal number of players.

There, that's more like the truth.


Even if it is a small number of players, is it really okay to dismiss their concerns and consternation out of hand? Not everyone who is against Aurum is shouting it from the rooftops, after all.

Dezolf wrote:
Am I the only one wondering what "Nexon" is? o.O

Edit:
Also, when can we have MOAR piercings at random locations of ones face? You know, like the old minmatar.


Eve Japan is handled by Nexon, who use the eponymous Nexon as their own MT currency.
Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#129 - 2012-06-15 20:03:09 UTC
And here I was almost hoping that CCP might be considering removing all microtransactions from EVE. Silly me.

PLEX is bad enough, but Aurum is just bullshit. If you're going to keep doing this, then keep it very very low key or you'll lose an otherwise not-so-bitter vet. Buying in-game crap for real money fucks with the sandbox and it fucks with immersion, and it's not a good ******* either.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.

Anvil44
Avedis Corporation
The Vanguard Syndicate
#130 - 2012-06-15 20:04:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Anvil44
Clothing in loot? Sure why not? I can go with that. Same old blah clothing? Not so exciting. I hope that as new clothing items are slowly developed, I can get a cloak or a cape (Lando Calrissian look for me). Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people currently dress little differently in the Eve universe than they do today in the real world. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.

Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe.

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.

Mechael
Tribal Liberation Distribution and Retail
#131 - 2012-06-15 20:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Mechael
See, that's one thing that the previous CSM seemed to get all wrong. The primary source of outrage wasn't that CCP was developing ambulation ... sorry, Incarna ... instead of spaceships. The primary source of outrage was "Monoclegate" which, incidentally, had very little to do with outrageous prices and everything to do with real money prices in a sandbox game. It's about the most un-EVE-like thing I can think of off the top of my head, right up there with elves, magic missiles, level 4 missions, and consequence-free death.

By all means, give us a useful way of existing outside of our pods. But don't tie it (or anything else outside of our subscriptions) in with the size of our real-world bank accounts. That's what the subscription fee is for. Keep the sandbox pure.

Whether or not you win the game matters not.  It's if you bought it.

Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#132 - 2012-06-15 20:18:40 UTC
Evelgrivion wrote:
I wanted to bring up a long standing point (and contention) with the NEX store, and it seems like a good opportunity to do so given the fresh eyes of the esteemed CCP Unifex.

Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players, after the Incarna debacle and whatnot. One of the major needs of a microtransaction game is a way to acquire the goods for free. While PLEX conversion does give the opportunity for players to acquire Aurum without paying cash, the situation remains that it is impossible to acquire Aurum without having someone spend cash on them. Given the march of time, I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.

At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.

What do you think?


I got no issue with Aurum being created from real money as the only way for it to come into existence. But I do think players should be able to sell it to each other for ISK.

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Ibrahim Khashanti
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#133 - 2012-06-15 20:20:57 UTC
I like the move. Avatar clothing isn't my focus in this game, but sometimes a long haul or boring gate camp requires checking out what other people are wearing. And I confess, I'll probably drop a few dollars for S&G's.

My recommendations: hats, gloves, or even space suits of some kind. I mean who wants to be covered in pod goo?
Lilliana Stelles
#134 - 2012-06-15 20:26:52 UTC
Clothing in the LP store? Why are you giving us Christmas presents in the middle of the summer, CPP? <3

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Ibrahim Khashanti
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#135 - 2012-06-15 20:27:17 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Evelgrivion wrote:
I wanted to bring up a long standing point (and contention) with the NEX store, and it seems like a good opportunity to do so given the fresh eyes of the esteemed CCP Unifex.

Aurum is still a very sore spot for a large number of players, after the Incarna debacle and whatnot. One of the major needs of a microtransaction game is a way to acquire the goods for free. While PLEX conversion does give the opportunity for players to acquire Aurum without paying cash, the situation remains that it is impossible to acquire Aurum without having someone spend cash on them. Given the march of time, I think the time is right to add a truly free acquisition option for Aurum.

At the current time, one Aurum costs approximately 200,000 ISK when acquired through PLEX. What players currently lack, and what would probably significantly improve the reception of the NEX store and its contents, is an option to acquire Aurum for ISK at a cost of 250,000 to 300,000 a unit. An unfavorable exchange rate maintains the preference for cash while giving players the option to, in truth, not pay anything more for Eve Online than they already are. This would also create a new ISK sink for the game.

What do you think?


I got no issue with Aurum being created from real money as the only way for it to come into existence. But I do think players should be able to sell it to each other for ISK.



In game currency trading...... Now there's an idea. Imagine if all four empires had their own currencies.
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#136 - 2012-06-15 20:35:34 UTC
This is clearly an omen of the end of the world predicted by Mayans for 2012.

Thanks, CCP! Finally

P.S. Now, please, develop multi-avatar station halls with chat bubbles depending on my active chat channel.
CCP Unifex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#137 - 2012-06-15 20:37:04 UTC
Ibrahim Khashanti wrote:

In game currency trading...... Now there's an idea. Imagine if all four empires had their own currencies.


I think Dr Eyjo just had a panic attack

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CCP Unifex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#138 - 2012-06-15 20:38:16 UTC
Anvil44 wrote:
...Also, work on some more 'futuristic clothing' as time and resources permit. Most people currently dress little differently in the Eve universe than they do today in the real world. With so many people in the eve universe (not just pod pilots but the poor land-locked saps as well), clothing should be all over the place in styles and colours.

Be nice to have more varied choices available in general as well since pod pilots should have access to stuff all the time. They are the elite of humanity in the Eve universe.


If this test proves successful this is exactly the kind of thing I would like to investigate.

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Ivan Ward
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#139 - 2012-06-15 20:40:40 UTC
Will this mean that you are going to sell belts in that shop of yours?

"Hot pilots we have problems too, we're just like you."

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#140 - 2012-06-15 20:42:26 UTC
So we have 200 AUR/$, 166 AUR/$, 150 AUR/$ and 120 AUR/$ price points…

Are you trying to manipulate PLEX prices, CCP? P