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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-06-15 16:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Ristlin Wakefield
Yesterday a RvB guy warped into our system and paid my friend and I a visit in our mining belt. I don't usually mine, but I was a little tipsy at the time and I felt like chatting with my Corp.

So he flips a can. We warp out and I take a look at the guy's ship, a Worm. I think to myself, "A frigate? I got this"

So I warp back to base and grab my Harby, my friend grabs his Thorax, and another is on his way in a Drake.

Five wrecks later two of us have nothing left to fight with and the Drake is slowly being picked apart so I go in with my last ship, a spare Omen to bait and at least get the Drake out.

After the Omen dies and the Drake escapes, the RvB guy finally warped out.

Although we were all very annoyed at being unable to bring down the ship, we took it as a learning experience. So I am here to share them with others who are also newer in EvE and haven't immediately been sucked into an established Corp/Alliance.

Lessons learned:
(1) Know your enemy. Our biggest mistake was not knowing the Worm. The Worm is a frigate drone boat and in the hands of a skilled pilot, it becomes a monster of a ship that can take a beating and is almost impossible to hit for a low-skilled pilot flying anything but "the best" fit.

(2) Arrive as one. We may have been able to force him away with our initial attack if all three of us warped in at the same time. Our lack of coordination allowed him to pick us off one by one and outrun our slower ships to rebuild defenses. By the time the Drake arrived, two of us had nothing else to fight with.

(3) Be prepared. Put together a defense fleet preset with PvP fitting and an understood role. In my haste to "catch the thief," not only did I rush into battle with not-so-great a counter to the Worm, but I also fitted it poorly for the task.

I hope this helps you.

Ristlin Wakefield

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#2 - 2012-06-15 16:29:41 UTC
I applaud your attitude sir.

Learning from ones mistakes is proper way to be good at this game.

Good luck next time.
Alonzo Odantis
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-06-15 16:30:49 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
Yesterday a RvB guy warped into our system and paid my friend and I a visit in our mining belt. I don't usually mine, but I was a little tipsy at the time and I felt like chatting with my Corp.

So he flips a can. We warp out and I take a look at the guy's ship, a Worm. I think to myself, "A frigate? I got this"

So I warp back to base and grab my Harby, my friend grabs his Thorax, and another is on his way in a Drake.

Five wrecks later two of us have nothing left to fight with and the Drake is slowly being picked apart so I go in with my last ship, a spare Omen to bait and at least get the Drake out.

After the Omen dies and the Drake escapes, the RvB guy finally warped out.

Although we were all very annoyed at being unable to bring down the ship, we took it as a learning experience. So I am here to share them with others who are also newer in EvE and haven't immediately been sucked into an established Corp/Alliance.

Lessons learned:
(1) Know your enemy. Our biggest mistake was not knowing how different the Worm is from its T1 counterpart. The Worm is a frigate drone boat. In the hands of a skilled pilot, it becomes a monster of a ship that can take a beating and is hard to hit.

(2) Arrive as one. We may have been able to force him away with our initial attack if all three of us warped in at the same time. Our lack of coordination allowed him to pick us off one by one and outrun our slower ships to rebuild defenses. By the time the Drake arrived, two of us had nothing else to fight with.

(3) Be prepared. Put together a defense fleet preset with PvP fitting and an understood role. In my haste to "catch the thief," not only did I rush into battle with not-so-great a counter to the Worm, but I also fitted it poorly for the task.

I hope this helps you.

Ristlin Wakefield



Bro. Story. Cool.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-15 16:40:32 UTC
Cool starry bra!

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-06-15 18:27:05 UTC
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
I applaud your attitude sir.

Learning from ones mistakes is proper way to be good at this game.

Good luck next time.


Thanks : )

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
TotalRapeage
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-06-15 18:42:55 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
I applaud your attitude sir.

Learning from ones mistakes is proper way to be good at this game.

Good luck next time.


Thanks : )



BRB, off to buy a worm...
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-06-15 18:46:05 UTC
TotalRapeage wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
Tomcio FromFarAway wrote:
I applaud your attitude sir.

Learning from ones mistakes is proper way to be good at this game.

Good luck next time.


Thanks : )



BRB, off to buy a worm...


*continues to mass produce and sell Worms, knowing that everyone will now rush to buy the FOTM*

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#8 - 2012-06-15 19:21:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Griznatch
Ive been flying worms since before they were cool.


edit: actually ive been flying the same worm since before they were cool because Ive never lost one.

I used to have a clever sig but I lost it.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-06-15 19:24:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ristlin Wakefield
Griznatch wrote:
Ive been flying worms since before they were cool.


edit: actually ive been flying the same worm since before they were cool because Ive never lost one.



Nice. Yeah, they are quite awesome now. My fault for underestimating it!

Sounds like you also follow bands before they go mainstream.

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
#10 - 2012-06-15 19:24:55 UTC
RvB is the best.

Although where I come from they arrest you for worm **** and put you on a registry. :(

                      "LIVE FAST DIE." - traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#11 - 2012-06-15 19:43:41 UTC
Dirk Magnum wrote:
RvB is the best.

Although where I come from they arrest you for worm **** and put you on a registry. :(


From what sick country are you?Shocked
Faraa Visteen
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-06-15 19:57:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Faraa Visteen
Sorry for you loss, but to be honest I looked at the fit you lost in.

You had lost before you even warped in.

Also losing once was not enough, you lost 3 ships to the same guy with the same ship.

Sorry that is just poor flying on your part.

Always try to KNOW your FOE before you step in it.

You have a great attitude about all this and I commend you for that, but try to get as MUCH intel on your foe before you jump in it next time.

Fly safe,
Faraa
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#13 - 2012-06-15 20:06:28 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I think to myself, "A frigate? I got this"

Famous last words

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."
CorInaXeraL
The Dresdeneers
#14 - 2012-06-15 20:19:04 UTC
Faraa Visteen wrote:


Always try to KNOW your FOE before you step in it.



I pity da Foe that don't know his Foe?

It's happened to the best of us, though! I remember my days starting out...lost an Abby in Nullsec to a Vagabond because I thought 'Hey, I got this!'

Yeeeah... not so much.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-06-15 20:19:53 UTC
Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
I think to myself, "A frigate? I got this"

Famous last words


It was actually "A frigate? I got this, bro!" lol

What?

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-06-15 20:24:56 UTC
Faraa Visteen wrote:
Sorry for you loss, but to be honest I looked at the fit you lost in.

You had lost before you even warped in.

Also losing once was not enough, you lost 3 ships to the same guy with the same ship.

Sorry that is just poor flying on your part.

Always try to KNOW your FOE before you step in it.

You have a great attitude about all this and I commend you for that, but try to get as MUCH intel on your foe before you jump in it next time.

Fly safe,
Faraa


Yep, being tipsy and overconfident threw all reason out the window. I took my PvE ship and threw together the first few modules that I could find and went out to combat. A mistake that won't happen again.

We've already begun putting together a standing fleet of PvP ships prefitted just for the occasion.

As for all the losses, I wasn't complaining (very easy ships to replace). Just annoyed in the end we still couldn't bring him down because we were not prepared. We had never encountered a Worm before.

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Mira Lynne
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-06-15 21:12:14 UTC
TBH, that Worm and its fit was probably more expensive than all your losses bar the Harbinger hull put together. That includes fits.

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-06-15 23:35:36 UTC
OP is taking this all wrong ....

You should scream bloody murder and demand nerf to the worm ... afterall 3 people should be able to kill a lowly frigate because your ships were bigger then his. In addition to that you need to tell everyone how you have allready unsubbed and will quit if this whole problem aint fixed before your sub runs out.
Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-06-16 00:55:34 UTC
Cedo Nulli wrote:
OP is taking this all wrong ....

You should scream bloody murder and demand nerf to the worm ... afterall 3 people should be able to kill a lowly frigate because your ships were bigger then his. In addition to that you need to tell everyone how you have allready unsubbed and will quit if this whole problem aint fixed before your sub runs out.


You forgot to add that I should also demand a refund!

I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license.
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-06-16 01:30:36 UTC
Cedo Nulli wrote:
OP is taking this all wrong ....

You should scream bloody murder and demand nerf to the worm ... afterall 3 people should be able to kill a lowly frigate because your ships were bigger then his. In addition to that you need to tell everyone how you have allready unsubbed and will quit if this whole problem aint fixed before your sub runs out.


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