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Can someone explain to me what this guy is doing??

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#21 - 2012-06-15 19:09:48 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Nice list of RMT and customers, let the bans rollLol


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No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#22 - 2012-06-15 19:13:43 UTC
Money laundering, er isk laundering

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2012-06-15 19:19:23 UTC
This is a great example of why RMT is so hard to hide. There's tons of ways to make a single transaction appear legitimate. There are not a lot of ways to make having a constant habit of sending money to random people appear legitimate.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-06-15 19:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
you should edit the OP thread title to "RMT contracts revealed" or something more eye catching

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Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#25 - 2012-06-15 19:27:43 UTC
Easily the best thread in GD today. With that list, you could potentially do an awful lot of (completly justifiable) damage.

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."

xX Fence Xx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-06-15 20:29:24 UTC
Paranoia willdestroya, guys and girls. Yes, failed contracts were part of a big scheme... of agreements between certain inter-alliance spies. I'm but a part of a chain. Too bad I was discovered - and, I guess, some of my comrades as well. But it's life. It is, well, dark side of EVE, but is noway forbidden by rules. Do you really think I'd take such an obvious name, and run such a lot of easily noticeable deals if I was RMTing? Get real.

Other than that, I live pretty much common life of a capsuleer. I enjoy claim wars with my main, I run missions to cover my ship losses, I build and sell ships, and so forth. Now, do you know why did this topic appear? It's all about competition Big smile Sometimes I get drops of Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link. As I'm not a tackler, I have no use for them - so I sell them via contracts. Sometimes I get two of them per day, sometimes none. Today I've got lucky streak of "Right Hand" + "Damsel", and got 4 of them. And placed it all for sale. Know what? Some jealous dude called "Lord Jita" (who is, obviously, trade char of this topic OP) sends me a message about "crashing zor market". Out of curiosity, I check his own deals in this area. And OMFG - he sells about 50 of them each week! Without buying at least one. And he's still picking on someone selling 1-2 imps daily. Well yes, he might of course buy it elsewhere with other chars... but he can as well just run an ultimate bot farm which farms missions for ages. No living human can play so much manually, to farm about 7 chips every day - their drop chance is rather low. So I'd suggest CCP to check his account and his money flow as well.

Oh, and shuttle? It was a scam. My fault.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#27 - 2012-06-15 20:44:34 UTC
lol

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Sturmwolke
#28 - 2012-06-15 20:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Sturmwolke
Funny thing, he doesnt even need to make some of those contracts public . Personal contract would have worked fine.
No doubt milking the "plausible deniability" line.

Also notice those contracts were accepted with 2-3 mins of issuance - meaning it's a planned set up.

Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say.
xX Fence Xx
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-06-15 21:21:56 UTC
Sturmwolke wrote:
Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say.

Indeed, we've privately agreed to set up a contract. For BPO. Another BPO, though. Too bad I was too trustful. Won't happen in the future anymore.
Zala Brown
Apotheosis Enterprises
#30 - 2012-06-15 21:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Zala Brown
xX Fence Xx wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say.

Indeed, we've privately agreed to set up a contract. For BPO. Another BPO, though. Too bad I was too trustful. Won't happen in the future anymore.


haha You really expect people to believe that? This thread just took a turn for the hilarious.
Yes we really believe you bought dozens of blueprints for billions of isk ... by accident.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-06-15 21:36:23 UTC
Zala Brown wrote:
xX Fence Xx wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say.

Indeed, we've privately agreed to set up a contract. For BPO. Another BPO, though. Too bad I was too trustful. Won't happen in the future anymore.


haha You really expect people to believe that? This thread just took a turn for the hilarious.
Yes we really believe you bought dozens of blueprints for billions of isk ... by accident.


Don't forget the courier contracts. This guy says he wouldn't fake the name of "Fence" because it's too obvious? Ever heard of hiding in plain sight? That, or just being dumb?

Dodixie > Hek

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-06-15 22:00:48 UTC
SetrakDark wrote:
rmt

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#33 - 2012-06-15 22:02:00 UTC
Nice catch OP, forward this to CCP.

While the Couriers would work for the "lets hide my cargo" thing, the insane BP contracts put that out.
Sturmwolke
#34 - 2012-06-15 22:09:50 UTC
xX Fence Xx wrote:
Sturmwolke wrote:
Edit: To note a point on the shuttle as claimed by the xxFencexx character, a 2mins scam?
Very successful scam I must say.

Indeed, we've privately agreed to set up a contract. For BPO. Another BPO, though. Too bad I was too trustful. Won't happen in the future anymore.


Let me guess, setting them as a public contract was an accident.
Sorry. Plural form. Accidents.

Big smile
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#35 - 2012-06-15 22:27:48 UTC
Zala Brown wrote:
I noticed this guy accepts and fails tons courier contracts, losing between 1b and 3b of collateral for each one over last few months . All from different characters in different alliances. Um... so that's interesting....

http://i.imgur.com/AJHZ8.jpg

I dig deeper and look at contracts from some of the other characters he failed the contracts from. MORE OF THE SAME.

http://imgur.com/26j56
http://i.imgur.com/Bmq7Q.jpg

Then I notice other things. Regularly BUYING cheap BPCs for billions of isk.

1b for a prophecy bpc?
http://i.imgur.com/1lz9o.png

2b for a hurricane bpc?
http://i.imgur.com/YhoZe.png

2.5b for a maller bpc?
http://i.imgur.com/LpEFe.png

There are literally DOZENS of contracts like this. A shuttle BPO for 1b? sure why not! What a deal!
http://i.imgur.com/b3yZz.png

Is this guy legitimately doing something that is beyond my understanding? Why not just send isk directly? Is this guy running RMT operation under noses of CCP using failed courier contracts and blueprint contracts to move the isk? Is this a common method? What is a real reason anyone would do something like this? Curious to hear others thoughts.


update: I convoed one of the people that issued one of these courrier contracts, guy seemed friendly at first then immediately leaves convo when I asked about his failed contract.


LoL you've just opened up the biggest can of you know what iv seen in months lol 11 out of 10 goddamn, why didn't I think of this...
Cloned S0ul
POCKOCMOC Inc.
#36 - 2012-06-15 22:33:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Cloned S0ul
Edit NVM the victim is here in topic ;)
Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#37 - 2012-06-15 23:08:58 UTC
now HERE gentlemen is a list of people that needs to be suicide ganked. someone call the goons.

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2012-06-15 23:12:19 UTC
I say we petition em all, and let CCP sort them out.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#39 - 2012-06-15 23:15:04 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
I say we petition em all, and let CCP sort them out.


That sounds like a good idea!

In the meanwhile I will lock this thread as there is nothing to discuss here.

CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer

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