EVE New Citizens Q&A

I support the addition of a Duel system. The can flipping option is just a mess.

HOWEVER

I do not support the removal of being able to shoot at your corp mates. Corp infiltration is a classic tactic, and shouldn't be eliminated.

Ever heard of arranged 1v1 using the can flipping mechanics.

Both of you meet in safe spot.

Both drop a can with something useless in it and steal from each other. both of the pilots will appear as flashy red to each other and can fight now.

(Only lacks the ability to negate for off grid boosters and help warping in, but this is EVE what would you expect).

Of course, but I agree with this:And the bracketed comment in your edit to your last post just proves the point.

No it isn't

EVE isn't fair

If the enemy brought boosters and help and you didn't, means you were stupid and should have done the same.

Of course. Why are you pointing that out? Why else would I have said that it's not an option if you're only consenting to combat with one specific opponent?

The general PvP risk you accept by playing EVE isn't free of CONCORD intervenion except as governed by system sec level. What we're discussing here is consensual PvP without external interference.

I grant that SiSi is an option, but it's a bit of a contrivance just for a casual scrap with another player.

Uhm:

How would a pop up asking you if you want to fight player "x" yes or no prevent them from using off grid boosts or warping in buddies that pull aggression using the game mechanics (repping drones, ECCM etc.).

Want to shoot eachother, safe-spot, 2 cans, flip them, GO.

Did they remove ther "no agression" wend in the same fleet?
If they didn't an you want a duel just fleet up

It is not about how it is meant to be played, but how it is perceived. And Azaru Shepard thought that 1.0 and 0.9 are safe. His mistake but a loss for EVE $$$.

A few comments From An retired Admin in one of EA games battlefields games.

Being a Newbie in Most MMORGS is not a very nice Experiance, its a fact of life. Only some games have a protection bubble round them, like Command and Conquer Alliences, which last 6-7 days, where you can't be attacked.

I have been playing this a week or so, its very hard going for newbies, But im lucky enough to have played Dark orbit some time ago, for a year, so Know some of the ropes, so to speak.

I have lost two ships, but only in low missions, Some of these missions where aura pops up, appear to be on rails, so what ever you do to escape after completing a dead space mission, means you get blown up.

I finally terminated the Worf charactor, but took me hours, because at 7 days old, you not going to have a Hi powered ship to use.
In fact, I bought both an dual light cannon and a gatling gun using the projectile ammo and one basic Shield, but trying to fit the other module, Hull repairer, popped up a message saying my flux whatever hasnt the power to activate this, thus, i had to do quick strikes on Wolfs tower, trying to outrun the stolen navy Bird, which was impossible, so had to leg it back 12 times back to a base to get repaired.. Surely these newbie type missions should be adjusted, to what ship and fittings you are limited to. I insured all my ships from day one, wether on tutorials or not.

I find it abhorrent, that a corp, could do what it did. I know this is supposed to be a tough game, but to my mind newbies should be protected for a time By being able to enlist there own concord guard, in fact an NPC Concord Ship should be around with a newbie as a protection bubble for a limited time. I dont see anything so far, that makes me believe Concord is actually any use in the game, if the core of the game is mutiny, piracy, and down right unfair play, The Concord police is all but in name.

I did join a Corp, but the invite came from an established group, which I looked into, and was happy with the information aquired. trouble is, I think they live 12-15 jumps away, I doubt I would make it in once piece to there headqauters.

Unfortunelty I have also not gone on to being a full member, because I will not pay the Subscription fee and get charged again for a so called setup fee.

I wanted to pay by paypal, but the amount was still being charged at £14 instead of £9.99. This amounts to a cash cow, if 39,000 players have paid nearly £5 on top of there sub charge then, This company has made nearly £195,000 in profit, on top of the sub fee. I thought EAsy's profiteering was bad enough, but charging a set up fee to pay a tenner on paypal is taking the P***.

So Like the OP I prbabaly wont be back, the mere thought of losing my equipment permantly and all the moeny earned has put me off. At least in dark Orbit, if your ship is destroyed, you still have the fittings in your hanger for the next ship. Something not quite right with the Ethics of this game, and im one, that feels, its not for me.

Retriever skill requirements:

Mining Barge III
-Astrogeology III
Industry V
Science IV
Mining IV

Not to mention all the secondary skills to equip basic tank and so on.

You've been in the game on the order of a month at minimum, you no longer get sympathy for doing dramatically stupid things like joining a corporation without even clicking on their info sheet and the info of their leader, and not realizing that corp-mates can shoot you. Will we offer genuine advice telling you what went wrong and how to avoid it in the future? Yes. Do we think your problem is anything but funny and/or your own fault? No.

As someone who's generally quite patient with people that haven't figured out how things work yet: HTFU and stop whining over problems caused by your own personal failure to put even the most basic effort into learning the rules of the game. Since the improvements to the new player experience a year or so back this game's learning curve is not particularly steep, man up and deal.