EVE General Discussion

I don't know that. I like to have my Internet Starship (tank/plane/soldier/whatever) on a big screen so I can see all the details the team has put there.


I don't have a single thing in my GUI I don't want.
I don't want to bring the keep vs remove local flame here, so I'll just say this: all I need from local are those small blue/red icons next to peoples names, so I keep the window thin and mostly covered with other stuff, so it's not an issue.
Now let's go over other stuff on I have on my screen and see if they should go:
- Chat window with channels I care about, such as corp or PRICE_CHECK. I want it there and I would want it regardless of platform.
- Chat window with Intel channels. I want it there when I'm in 0.0 and would want it regardless of platform.
- Ship HP + modules. I guess it could be smaller, but than again it would be a problem, as a lot of people have already pointed out how imprecise touch screens are, so small buttons are a no-go.
- Overview. Good luck doing anything in the game without it and relying only on brackets for distances, speed, traversal etc.
- Current target. I guess it's the least important of all GUI elements, but it is handy and on a touch screen we'd need a panel with buttons for actions anyway.
- Drones. Good luck controlling them/seeing their HP without it. This would be especially troublesome on a tablet, since you don't have the shortkeys to order them around.
- The fleet window. Granted, it's not always there, but it is very important during a fight, to get the primaries and calls for RR.

I don't see how would you want to get rid of them without making it a gigantic mess. You (or someone in this thread) mentioned voice comms - sure, they're cool, until you try to talk in corp, fleet and get a priv at the same time. Guess I'm not innovate enough.

After what they did to the inventory I'd rather they leave the GUI alone, thank you very much.

In large fights you use the fleet window to target stuff.

Yes, we do. In fact I linked one such setup in the post you've quoted. But again, attaching a keybord (and while we're at it - why not a mouse) makes it a small laptop. We're not discussing EVE on small laptops, we're talking about tablets.

>>Anyhoo, the change is coming, no matter how bitter the bitter vets are.
I'm not bitter (nor a vet for that matter) and I've played a few 'big' games on a tablet and they all sucked due to the horrible controls. While I'm not saying it's impossible to make a good game for those devices, those games need to be made with a touch screen in mind from the very beginning. EVE was not.

While I agree, that portable computers are the future and it's pointless (not to mention stupid) to resist this, we're still far from that day and for now tablets are good for reading stuff, surfing the Net, music/videos (although why would you want to watch a good movie on a 10'' screen is beyond me) and simple games like Angry Birds. And it will not change much anytime soon, no matter how delusional the fanboys are

fake edit: lol, there is a quote limit/post on the forums...

Desktop PCs are certainly not dying and until I can have a 26" screen table you can forget it.

I play EVE on my sofa using a wacom touch screen since quite a while.
My notebook (sometimes also used to play EVE) is the second generation of convertible notebooks. I mostly use this in tablet mode.
Whenever people speculate what can be done on a tablet or touch screen, I am mildly amused...


Imagine, you can physically hammer down on a target while screaming "die, die, die"! It is strangely satisfying

Huh, chill out...

ITT: Sweeping, radical predictions based on little evidence and even less common sense.

Next!

When Eve is a dual stick shooter,we'll talk.

Isn't the world record for fastest text ever on an iPhone? The keyboard is plenty precise enough. Perhaps it's *you* who's not precise. Which is fine, it wouldn't work for *you*, but that's not the technology's fault. Keyboard-based clients won't simply go away for a looong time. Heck, you can even pair a full-sized keyboard with a tablet if you really wanted. (defeats the portability purpose though).


Really though, I think eve could be easily optimized for a tablet interface. For all you people saying it's "not precise" enough.... yeah.... i'd like some of what you're smoking please. That argument holds water for an FPS, not a click-and-the-ship-flies pew-pew game. Modules? already "buttons", inventory? square tiles. Overview? yeah that could be a scrolling grid, it would need to be reworked. Chat? voice.

"But it's too small!" Is that what your girl tells you? Seriously though, modern tablets (3rd gen iPad for example) have a res higher than many desktops. With some user-interface modification I'd say we're maybe 2-3 years from tablets being able to run Eve at what most would consider medium settings now. All in all, not bad.

I can't wait until this guy tries to load his CQ on a tablet and it catches fire in his hands.

The unified UI is like using the windows file manager, you can do it, but it's much more effective if you can have two of them.

Much like console UIs.

Microsoft introduced new tablet with W8 last night. Interesting tablet, with screencover that acts as very flat keyboard.

Tablet sales are growing over 200% this year, and at the same time desktop sales are slowing down. I predict that in less than five years desktop sales are starting to decrease.

If microsoft doesn´t fail, there will be very heavy competetion in tablet market and that will give massive boost on developing new and more powerfull tablets.