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Implement a new mod; a cloak disruptor; which would basically be an active sonar ping, and decloak cloaked vessels (possibly probability based on sig radius) within a certain distance (dictor sphere size). Limit it to this new T2 destroyer class.

Possibly even have a targeting delay like a cloak; reducible by training skills.

ASW Destroyers exist in modern navies, and this would add a counter to cloakies, and mean you wouldn't want to sit afk 10k off a gate.

Don't see how you make anything easier for gate campers.

I did consider having a system wide ping, but that seemed far too powerful.

Because it would be just like a dictor, but unable to be effective solo. How can you say that dictors make life easy for gatecampers?

You said something about an AOE 10km range module that can be used to catch people who previously could have gotten away. Sounds like a dictor bubble to me.

Except my module isn't a bubble, its a ping and it doesnt prevent warping, just decloaks.

At the moment the only way to escape a big gate camp in nullsec (when there are dictors) is to use a cloak.

So no. This is a terrible terrible idea. I imagine that even the usual anti-cloaky trolls wouldn't support this idiocy.
Also, this exact idea has been proposed and shot down a good few times already. Don't make us have to do it again.

No, your not. Exactly. So there is no problem with cloakies passing through gates then is there? In which case, what is the point in your proposal? I can answer that for you. There is none.

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A bubble that declaoks ships that try to cloak up to escape a gate camp.... and you dont' see how this could be used to make gate camping easier???

You're either a moron.... or a troll!!!

I think both...

either way, you certainly didn't do your forum research, as similar ideas have been proposed and shot down more times than I care to count...

I can agree to this if 2 things are changed.

1. All cloaky ships have a lot more tank (SB in particular).
2. This new destroyer is paper thin and has a long targeting delay (not reducable by skills). Targeting delay at 30s would be good. And applies to all ships that are with the destroyer on grid.

My solution is much simpler. Stop trying to greatly change game mechanics of a class of ship to fit your paranoia. We get it, afk cloakys really bother you. Get over it. You could also counter the entity that is afk cloaking you by doing same.

Clearly more than you judging by the rest of your comments.

Let me put it this way; as you clearly still don't get the reference to interdictors:


Imagine a world without interdictors; and then CCP propose a T2 variant of the destroyer; and a new module that will drop a temporary bubble that will prevent ships warping.

You post to the thread a whine about how 'it will make gatecamps much easier' and how 'fast aligning ships don't do much DPS anyway so you are not at risk'.

They clearly were not valid arguments then, as we have interdictors; so I don't see how the same arguments are valid now.



I'd actually have the ship be LESS effective at it's role than a dictor is it it's own role; because I think cloakies should get a chance.

Yes, if you had a camp consisting of several perma pinging ASW ships you would uncloak everything on the gate; but that would be expensive, and massively limit the DPS your fleet can do.

And yeah, I would want a 30 second locking delay after a sonar ping. TBH the dictor should have one too after dropping it's bubble.

SONAR (SOund Navigation And Ranging) or anything of the like would not work in the vacuum of space, as sound doesn't travel through it. The sound produced by the weapons on ships in New Eden is simulated within the vessel according to lore.

Also, cloaking is working as intended.

Stop *****ing, stop ****posting, and ****ing Biomass already.

Don't forget to give me your stuff first.