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New dev blog: A letter to the followers of EVE

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Huan Claer
Perkone
Caldari State
#561 - 2011-10-06 15:05:53 UTC
Wow, quite a letter. Thanks for the candour, it's not easy admitting shortcomings like that.

I look forward to seeing how the future advancement goes with this statement behind it.
Ion Dogun
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#562 - 2011-10-06 15:17:40 UTC
Yes, this is the right way.

Thank you Hilmar Attention
Spurty
#563 - 2011-10-06 15:39:48 UTC
Humble pie consumed. Good good.

Thanks for the post, means much to me.

Looking forward to the winter expansion more than ever now.

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

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Crasniya
The Aussienauts
#564 - 2011-10-06 15:51:10 UTC
Posting a *hug to our fearless leader*

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Cuchulain Spartan
Unlimited 2.0
Infinite Pew
#565 - 2011-10-06 15:55:03 UTC
Generally the man at top only apologises when,

A) The company is hemorrhaging/about to hemorrhage money due to his stubbornness

B) The company is hemorrhaging/about to hemorrhage his top staff due to his stubbornness

I don’t think he woke up one morning and found religion and realised the errors of his ways, I think its adapt or die time which makes the apology worthless imo.

Spart o/
Cuchulain Spartan
Unlimited 2.0
Infinite Pew
#566 - 2011-10-06 15:55:19 UTC
Generally the man at top only apologises when,

A) The company is hemorrhaging/about to hemorrhage money due to his stubbornness

B) The company is hemorrhaging/about to hemorrhage his top staff due to his stubbornness

I don’t think he woke up one morning and found religion and realised the errors of his ways, I think its adapt or die time which makes the apology worthless imo.

Spart o/
Ephraim Faide
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#567 - 2011-10-06 16:01:42 UTC
Whether he decided to apologize because of the sudden realization of the error of his ways, or because of duress (i.e. bleeding membership subscriptions), I really commend Himlar for doing this. This apology has been seen by many (even many cynical) as not just a good step forward, but the culmination of the issues that have boiled over and exploded during the summer.

Now, as many have said here, with the refocus for the winter expansion, I am definitely looking forward to the future.

Thank you for the apology Hilmar.

Now let's get back to blowing up pixel ships Big smile.

Faide
EMPstrike
Darkest Before Dawn
Dawn's Vanguard
#568 - 2011-10-06 16:03:44 UTC
Incarna?!
New tech 2 stuff?!
Hybrid rebalancing?!(i like blasters, but having them changes makes them new again to me!)
New "true" Exploration at some point in the future?!?!?

I love EVE, Im excited about both blogs.

Always knew CCP could handle it ;)
Nandy Cocytus
Doomheim
#569 - 2011-10-06 16:15:59 UTC
I've been playing 3 years, only recently following closely, though. I am actually a refugee from Star Wars Galaxies (a sad tale). I hope this is what I see happen. I love EVE, and everything it's accomplished so far, and it's hard to watch the true veterans that are so jaded. I hope I get the opportunity to see these things happen. Regardless of what does happen, the letter alone took guts.

I call a toast. To the future of the future.

So it goes.
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#570 - 2011-10-06 16:17:03 UTC
For those that would like a bit of reading on this whole saga and don't want to search for links:

You should probably read this: Some Curves Aren't

Then read this: Reality Check

Then read this: Hilmar's letter to EVE

Then read this: Winter Expansion 2011

Yeah... that should all help catch you up to whether EVE may or may not be dying. The new Star Wars game looks like WoW with lightsabers so we can only pray CCP sorts their lives (and our game) out. Cool

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Vin Hellsing
#571 - 2011-10-06 16:26:47 UTC
After viewing what Hilmar has said, I would hope that he fully intends to properly iterate Incarna in its complete form as a support project to what is coming in the Winter, so that player establishments get released as a bonus to FiS updates.

I would strongly encourage that.
Milla Sirius
Cruel Chicks
Black Rise Collective
#572 - 2011-10-06 16:31:23 UTC
Eve Online is our favourite game, forever !
You do good job, we buy more screens and accounts !
4 for the moment is enough, we are becoming no-life guys...

Thanks CCP

Our Network
Cevin North
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
#573 - 2011-10-06 16:36:59 UTC
To give you some feedback on what is said by other players and an ANCIENT idea from ccp, one that could actualy work with the precious walking in stations, give us our Warroom as corporation and as Alliance.

Build us a station tactical overview that invilves walking in stations and Wartargets, posses, Planetairy interaction and other basic system intel we can gather.

I am pritty sure you can do thatm if you wanted to, even partualy, for your next great release.



You wanted to put your game back on the map.... Build your wildest dreams, and do what noone has done before.
Latex Lover
Dreams Unlimited
#574 - 2011-10-06 16:56:24 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Ivana Twinkle wrote:
We'll see, it's still just :words: on a screen.


Yes they are, but they're good words, and they're words from the top.

It's only the first step, but at least the step is in the right direction.


Until we actually see some of these things on a server someplace, they are just words. There are no steps here. You are too gullible.
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#575 - 2011-10-06 16:58:11 UTC
Well, with such a heartfelt apology not coming from just any Dev, but the CEO of CCP, I am more inclined to restore the small amount of faith I had lost. So, with that, everyone grab your ships, and get back in space!

Internet Spaceships are once again are serious business!

To the future of New Eden!

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#576 - 2011-10-06 17:00:03 UTC
Cevin North wrote:
To give you some feedback on what is said by other players and an ANCIENT idea from ccp, one that could actualy work with the precious walking in stations, give us our Warroom as corporation and as Alliance.

Build us a station tactical overview that invilves walking in stations and Wartargets, posses, Planetairy interaction and other basic system intel we can gather.

I am pritty sure you can do thatm if you wanted to, even partualy, for your next great release.



You wanted to put your game back on the map.... Build your wildest dreams, and do what noone has done before.


I support the War Room.

I also support the idea of actually being able to stand in your hangar (and see ALL of your ships).

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
Sophia Stormbringer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#577 - 2011-10-06 17:01:24 UTC
Even with all the nots and failings, you still have a better connection to the community, than any and all the other large MMO companies. Keep up the good work!
Lyric Lahnder
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#578 - 2011-10-06 17:08:29 UTC
I know this may sound odd.
But every once in a while when you need to refocus on whats important.
Take some time to play the game again and really delve into the stuff were talking about.

I would never ever make the claim that no one at ccp plays EVE.
However as you all say your very busy you have job to do and you dont have time to play it.

Im not talking about QA testing or testing on singularity. Give your self some time to really play through some of the complaints we've laid at your door. Every once in a while try to have team building exercises in game. One time you explore pos management, another time explore faction warfare another time its something else.

You'll have to forgive the analogy, but its like a chef tasting his dish before sending it to the patron.

Your trying to connect with the player base.
Try to rediscover that personal connection you have with eve itself as well.

You might be surprised from what you learn.

Props hilmar.

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Feawin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#579 - 2011-10-06 17:10:28 UTC
Well CCP what can I say. You made my day, thats for sure. Keep up the good work.
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#580 - 2011-10-06 17:15:16 UTC
That is a pretty impressive apology, I appreciate that. Thank you.


However, as you mention yourself, we are going to be watching what you do and not what you say.

You see, thrust and faith are fragile things. And it is far easier to break them than it is to put them back together... I'll be looking at the end results and we'll see if faith get's restored.

If you want a quick faith boost from the community: slash you prices in the NEX store, I don't care how you slice your pricing scheme, that **** is way overpriced, not just the monocle.