Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think this is an excellent change. Why?

Pubbie scum that want to mine in highsec but don't want to be suicide ganked will have to use the low yield, high tank mining barge (an actual trade off, for once!).

Real miners will be using hulks, but because they need protection, the peasants will be forced into low-sec and will need to mine in groups and actually have pilots with them (because in high sec you can't protect against a suicide gank by having friends, in lowsec you can). This helps ensure the hulk is finally filling its role as a low sec mining ship.

CCP this is brilliant. It provides pubbie highsec scum with a way to avoid hulkageddon and makes miners (FOR THE FIRST TIME IN EVE'S HISTORY) have to consider cost/benefit of their activities instead of just watching the isk roll in while AFK in 1.0 systems. It might also help revitalize low-sec piracy and push the grief corps out of camping the jita 4-4 undock.

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to be honest i'm still finding it hard to justify a reason to use anything but the max yield ship.

i've made this point in another thread, but low sec is the riskiest place to mine without the highest reward. if you're going to move out of the comfort zone of concord's warm embrace then go all the way to 0.0.

in an industry V system, with a cyno jammer. you'll get the most isk/m3, and there's no need for a huge ore bay or a huge tank.

hence, i just can't justify using anything but the max yield ship. nice that there are ships to fill roles, the roles just seem redundant. perhaps the one with lots of ehp to avoid suicide ganking in empire but meh, just find yourself a quiet system to mine in.

/agree

0.0 doesn't change but this is huge for high sec miners and as said by the OP may even push miners into low sec mining ops.

Good work CCP!

i doubt it'll push people in to low sec, low sec is the worst place to mine by a huge stretch.

Once upon a time a goonie said that only they are allowed to call people "pubbies'. Op used the term "pubbie scum" which either means he is a goon alt or he is infringing upon goon copyright of the term.

sorry but everything you say here has no back bone, and really doesn't do anything for this argument, high sec mining is easy to do, as someone else said move to a quiet area, i did that for a very long time

also low sec mining is crap... more active systems with no better ore! how bout getting ride of some highsec instead and make more of the universe player owned null sec

1. I don't think this will revitalize low sec.
2. I do like the new ORE T1 barge. It's even a nice yellow color, which nothing else in EVE is.
3. I still want a tetris or bejeweled like mini-game to pop up when I mine.

Anyone who is not part of the glorious science and trade institute is pubbie scum. Even goons.

So as long as we're turning this into WoW by eliminating any reliance on other players (hell, any INCENTIVE to work with other players), can we just make PvP opt-in only in all secstatuses?

How about we also make the station hangar universal? I mean, really, who needs to haul stuff, all the other solo "MMO"s have a unified bank that's shared everywhere.

Can we make POS's personal assets now. And you know what, get rid of the fuel, too, since that requires at least a second character to be able to supply yourself.

This is ******* EVE.

This is not Hello Kitty Online.

This is not World of Warcraft.

Ships that are good at mining, suck at hauling. If you want to be efficient, work with other players; you know, the POINT of an MMO.

It kills me, you listen to baseless bullshit last year during Incarna, when a bunch of ******* RETARDS flipped out over an obviously-not-to-be-implemented blog, and almost completely kill all non-FiS development. Now you **** what makes EVE, EVE by coddling a bunch of WoWtards that refuse to associate with another person, while whining about how they can't solo the universe?

You think the riots last year were bad? Keep coddling the fucktards that can't figure out that multiplayer means WORKING with multipl players, and ruin your game, the best MMORPG on the market, in the history of th genre, in the process.