Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Since that new Mining Frigate looks great and it has a beautiful industrial touch to it... Will CCP change the models on the Hulk for that same yellow variant model that the frigate has?? I think it is time miners got a new updated look since they will no longer be one shotted! =D

Obviously they are already spending time on the fixes. The ship is perfectly fine but all other ships are getting new models and I do not see why the Barges/Exhumers are any different. No one is saying change them overnight, but eventually.

as far as i was aware it was just paint jobs that were being changed (with the excption of stealth bombers, which they had to do due to the missile launcher graphics)

/Agreed.

The Ore Frigate has an awesome look even though it looks like the M.U.L.E. from Starcraft 2 but maybe on of the other posters is right, a Hulk 2.0 Requiring a new Sub-Capital Exhumer skill?

a capital sized hulk would indeed be interesting, but i think also over power, driving mineral prices down to hard


with full fleet support i can empty belts in an hour and thats with only 2 hulks and a covoter, imagine the damage a capital mining barge would do, then times is by how many alts....[/quote]



If the Capital "Hulk" had to siege to mine greater then a hulk. (say double to triple what a hulk can pull) it runs the risk of being caught and or killed. also making only able to work in low or null sec means miners that want to pull billions have to be willing to push out.
Also with a 5 minute siege time it runs a risk of being caught and or killed.

increased yields are not what is needed for new mining ships.

i think CCP has got it right with the ore bays and the tank on the new exhumers.

increasing mining yields would be like adding more miners, it just increases supply and without extra demand the prices will drop.

if we're going to have a capital class hulk let's talk about the rorqual, basically copy the rorqual and give it the strip miners instead of fleet bonuses.

you can compress while you mine, you can jump the ore to a refinery, etc. maybe give it a pilot only bonus to laser range.
overall i think the way for mining ships to progress is to add utility and useful features to them rather than being able to mine more ore.

I dont disagree on the utility.

But lets face it as a miner once you progress to hulk there is no real reason to go further. Yeah you can go orca or Rorqual as a booster ship, but as a miner yourself there is no added bonus for you.

Giving the miner a capital ship to work towards allows them more progression in an industrial based field.

Also with all the recent changes and hulkageddon driving mineral prices up supply has become an issue.


As it stands right now its cheaper and easier to buy minerals from high sec and export to low/null to build caps and scaps.. A capital Mining ship that actually mines would give people a chance to move some of the production to low/null.

As it stands its just a as profitable to mine in high sec under relative safety in a hulk as it is in 0.0.

True but mining veldspar your pulling in 75% of what you would mining ark


0.0 is only safer if you live in the ass end of nowhere. Also then you have to safely export your profits to high sec. risk vs reward.

false, mining veld is less profitable than pyro, which means you're going to be pulling in less than 66% of what you'd be making on arkonor.

i'm not going to derail this with a dicussion on the safety of high sec vs null sec. also i've never had to move my goods out of null to make money and i'm making more money in null than i ever have in high.



this is why you speak kindly to all the ratters in your alliance and buy the trit from their hauler spawns at knock down prices because they're too lazy to haul it :P

Personally I like the models for the current barges and exhumers and I'd be loath to let them go. If anything they could just use some touching up here and there to make them more pretty, but no major changes needed imo.

What I would like to see though is the barges' skins/color scheme changed to match the nifty new yellow of the ORE mining frigate and a T2 variant of that same frigate that shares a skin/color scheme with the Exhumers. Perhaps the T2 variant of the frig could concentrate on drone mining and give big bonuses to mining drone yield/velocity/hp? Mining with drones is something I've always enjoyed, but the Vexor is only ship that gives a bonus to their yield.