EVE General Discussion

Cause they are proving that null is completely dead.
This could have been offered years ago and nothing would have happened cause players had better things to do then waste there time on this.

However now apparently that has changed.
I seriously doubt the number of gankers has remained the same.

So it comes down to what were the gankers doing before.

It would be interesting to see how many accounts are actually ganking people, and see how those numbers have changed over the years.

Boring day at work, gave me time to spent some time in the Internet. As porn sites are blocked by our system administrators, being the EVE newb I am I decided to catch up a bit about EVE history. I ended up on some sort of "Goon Wiki", obviously run by some Goon-members, not sure if this his history itself or still maintained.

But I had some great read about the "Great War" and the "Second Great War" and about "T20" and whatever.

Having read this anouncement earlier I found one paragraph particularly interesting - particularly interesting because as far as I understand that site this all is written by (ex?) Goon-members:

"The future for GoonSwarm looked bright. Unlimited cash supplies, the best region in the game, and high off the utter defeat of BoB at the hands of the Coalition, who had all finely tuned themselves in order to destroy BoB. After years of work and collaboration, they had achieved their goal. Still, the question remained: how long could a horde of supercapital-capable alliances, all having invested ludicrous amounts of money into their capital fleets and capital production lines, remain friendly to each other or find something to do after the destruction of BoB? Would they turn on themselves? Would BoB return, becoming the pest that never goes away? Time would tell. " (can be found a the bottom here )

Wasn't that what Muzafer Sherifs experiments were about? Common goals reduce tension?

Actually not true you did it 5 times before.
The first Hulkasgeddon could have been considered emergent but this is nothing more then modifying the rules and rewards.
The only thing that has changed is that you are now paying people to do it.

Sorry but like most commercials these days.
Filled with hype and grand proposals, but in fact it is same old stuff just put in a different package.
You would think marketing could come up with something new.

ok this has me slightly curious.

I understood hulkageddon, it made sense, hulks are supposed to be tough and flying them with paper tank purely to max yield was begging for trouble. People who flew them in such a manner had hell coming on them. Tanking up a hulk and taking steps which would reduce max yield but enhance survivability - ie forward thinking and preparedness were usefull things for people to take on board.

The issue is what sort of "Behavioral Correction Initiative" is there by killing the standard barges? They cant fit tank, they dont have the cpu or powergrid to tank up (yes i know this by attempting to fit a simple dcu onto my covetor) and as mentioned theyre easily killable solo in a ship that could come up to barely 1.5m isk. Not to mention that if a player took the industrial path they can easily be flying a retriever before they leave rookie chat (trust me, i was). So in theory players barely a few weeks old are now targeted as well.

This appears like nothing to do with making people realise they need to fly for survivability instead of iskability. I would like to get the general idea on the concept/reasoning.

Still the truth. Content is being provide by us while you sit here and moan how unfair life is. Get of your arse (in game) and do something to make a difference.

Your first mistake was trying to find a rational reason behind the whole thing.
You have to think of it in a different perspective.
Someone thought it would be fun.
Then someone thought it would be even more fun to have other people do it.
Some people agree.

That is it end of story

Yeah despite the spin everyone knows what it is. Go away little man.

Tal

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Also, you skirted the truth in your actual reply to me and totally missed the boat on other points.

1) This is the first Hulkageddon actually sponsored by the CFC (or really sponsored by anyone except for a handful of independent donors. Financing, automating, and providing rewards to all participants of a specific level of participation is the very ideal of emergent and evolutionary player created content.

2) Again, the scale of the event is unmatched. Hulkageddon 1-4 only could dream of the sort of turnouts and payouts that this one has benefited from.

Frankly, I'm kinda saddened that I took the bait on this.

It would seem you don't.

So what you are telling me is that you were forced pay the community this time in order to make your projected profit margins after expenses.

Still not emergent though, I did agree that the first Hulkagedden was emergent, but lets face it number 5 might be the biggest success story but it is no longer emergent.

That is all don't read more into it then I have stated, you all are working yourself into a frenzy for no reason.