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Goonswarm Behavioral Correction Initiative: Hulkageddon Infinity, Jr. League

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Peta Michalek
Doomheim
#61 - 2012-06-14 06:45:25 UTC
I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.

It really is all about waving your e-penis around, isn't it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#62 - 2012-06-14 06:58:10 UTC
Peta Michalek wrote:
I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.

It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it.

I.. I don't know....

What are the barges made of besides blueprints and minerals?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Urziel99
Multiplex Gaming
Tactical Narcotics Team
#63 - 2012-06-14 07:01:13 UTC
I kinda figured this would happen eventually. Once highsec miners started getting a clue. (Read: after several 200 million isk + losses)

I guess this means I'll have to do some EFT Warrioring and make 3 more mining battleship fits to complement the Rokh.
Betrinna Cantis
#64 - 2012-06-14 07:05:21 UTC
Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... Roll

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-06-14 07:14:49 UTC
Betrinna Cantis wrote:
Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... Roll


This has never been about educating miners or any of that. This is, has been and always will be, about screaming for attention. You seriously thought this was about killing macro miners/bots or bringing 'content' to the game?? Straight
Scott Ryder
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2012-06-14 07:15:40 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Peta Michalek wrote:
I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.

It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it.

I.. I don't know....

What are the barges made of besides blueprints and minerals?


love <3
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#67 - 2012-06-14 07:20:30 UTC
Peta Michalek wrote:
I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.

It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it.


Economy 101:

- You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium

- Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more.

- You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again.

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Betrinna Cantis
#68 - 2012-06-14 07:27:22 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Peta Michalek wrote:
I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.

It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it.


Economy 101:

- You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium

- Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more.

- You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again.

Until CCP starts to listen to all the whiners and buff the exhumers. Then when the winter expansion for Industry comes out... start all over.

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....
Vinni Starseeker
MMMMMA
#69 - 2012-06-14 07:29:07 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Peta Michalek wrote:
I knew that the whole technetium monopoly theory was way too logical and reasonable.

It really is all about waving your e-***** around, isn't it.


Economy 101:

- You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium

- Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more.

- You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again.




Yea - I was wondering if there was a money angle and figured the same thing.

I used to mine a couple of hours a day - now like a lot of people I just don't mine. I hope all you people enjoy the higher prices for ships/ammo/etc...
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-06-14 07:32:31 UTC
Betrinna Cantis wrote:
Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... Roll
you have to realise that while the afterbirth that is the mittani was on his 30 day ban, fapping away to his hearts content, he got kind of bitter and sore in the wrist.

All that was going through his peanut was "how dare ccp ban me for....need more tissue...encourage people to ....uuughhhh, that was a good one....make some one kill themselves."

Thisis not about emergent game play or stopping botting or afk mining. It's about a small minded man with an over inflated ego and a lot of insecurites. The only way he and goons can payback ccp (for doing the right thing) is to hit them were it hurts... Their bottom line, the miners that are always going to pay on their 3+ accounts.

It will go away just like goons.

Pog mo thoin

Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-06-14 07:33:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Tor Gungnir
There is a very disturbing 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Betrinna Cantis
#72 - 2012-06-14 07:38:49 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
There is a very disturbing 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread.

Agreed

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....
Urziel99
Multiplex Gaming
Tactical Narcotics Team
#73 - 2012-06-14 08:11:19 UTC
I'll just leave this here........

[Rokh, Mining]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II
Miner II

Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I


Mining Drone II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

This fit has 118k EHP, is cap stable and mines about 1063 m3/min (a standard max yield fitted Hulk yields 1624) [both with no bonuses or implants]*

It will be a pain to manage as the cargo bay is miniscule compared to the Hulk [2106 vs 8000] but it beats getting nothing and a lossmail.

*The above assumes all skills 5 and a clean head. (Your mileage may vary slightly)
Peta Michalek
Doomheim
#74 - 2012-06-14 08:17:47 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Economy 101:

- You kill many T2 miner ships and get rich with Technetium

- Enough miners smarten up and switch to T1. You don't get as much rich with Technetium any more.

- You put pressure on T1 ships so part of miners return buying T2: you get rich with Technetium again.


"smarten up and switch to T1"? You don't switch back to a Retriever when you can fly a Hulk. The yield difference is insane, it's just not cost effective in any way whatsoever. Contrary to what corpsec likes to preach most miners are not morons and can calculate cost effectiveness much better than people who spend most of their time buying dozens of Rifters to get blown up in.

If someone is flying a Retriever it means (s)he doesn't have either ISK or skills to fly a Hulk, period. So people who are targeted now are mostly new players who chose the mining career.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#75 - 2012-06-14 08:21:02 UTC
Though you are technically correct (the best kind of correct), a dead Hulk has way lower ISK/Hour ratio than an alive Retriever.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#76 - 2012-06-14 08:36:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Betrinna Cantis wrote:
Just a question... What about the people that have put a tank on their Hulks? I know I am going to get s#@t about posting with an alt,(refer to sig) but I don't believe the is anything wrong with a person that does a little of everything in this game. My main, for example is a mission runner, part-time miner to plex so I can keep playing, PVP,(some in Hi sec as we were at war), Build the ships gankers like to use and like to roam low sec looking for unsuspecting noobs to teach them the harshness of space. My kill board is not impressive,but I don't care about that much. So the question is, If this is supposed to be an "educational" thing, Why pop the people who have actually learned something? I,or my main, if you will will NEVER be a full time miner,too F"ing boring! It does pay the bills until I can do better things when my skills and training are better. Let the trollin" begin... Roll

Ganking for GSF payouts only works if your barge can be taken down by a short burst of high DPS. If your ship withstands that, then you'll not be profitable. Logi supported mining ops might not be 100% safe, but they won't be chained for profit.

Sure, someone could alpha you in a Tornado, but it costs them 90mil to do it for a 10mil reward.

As for the OP - the quality is inspirational.

Hopefully that Covetor blob I pegged last week is not wise by the time I get home.

n.b. if you're mining for ISK, you're doing it wrong.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Cristl
#77 - 2012-06-14 08:36:50 UTC
Can't people just buy 10 procurers (for about 25 mill total), insure them, and then kill 'em with another corp alt to collect insurance and goongoo without any sec loss or other trouble?

I can't find any hulkaggedon rules which prohibit this. Or maybe do it with a trial alt to be super-sekrit?

CBA myself, but still...
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#78 - 2012-06-14 08:41:20 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
There is a very disturbing 1930's Germany-esque vibe in the opening post in this thread.


I'm surprised it got to post #71 before we had Nazi parallels.

Hint: The Nazi party and Hitler are censored because it's utterly offensive to compare PLAYING A GAME to a genocide.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Syndic Thrass
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#79 - 2012-06-14 08:45:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Syndic Thrass
Compared To The NATIONAL SOCIALIST GERMAN WORKER PARTY - Check
Worse Than Stalin - Presumably... Check
Jade Constantine Bad Posts - Awwww


Thanks a lot Ev0ke, you get your feelings hurt over racism on the internet and now I can't say the N-word (not that N-word) when I am in fact talking about the political party from history. If they get that then I want slob, fat, McDonalds, ignorant, and sister-******* all to be turned to asterisks too.

Reguards, Iskies-mommies-toonies-corpies-goonies 0707 m8m8m8
Levo Harkonnen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-06-14 08:46:25 UTC
Combatmining best mining.