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CCP bit off more then Eve & the DEVs could chew with Escalation & Inferno
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Denarus Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2012-06-12 19:21:19 UTC
So highsec mission runner compaining about the only 3 things he's done in game.
-missions
-highsec incursions
-stuff in his inventory

Don't be such a sad sap.

PEWPEWPEW
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-06-12 19:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Denarus Arran wrote:
So highsec mission runner compaining about the only 3 things he's done in game.
-missions
-highsec incursions
-stuff in his inventory

Don't be such a sad sap.

As I understand incursions were actually done by some groups in low/null prior to the nerf but not nearly as much now, a clear sign that the nerf wasn't done properly.
And really, if you aren't affected in some way by the new UI I have to ask, do you actually log in?
highonpop
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#83 - 2012-06-12 19:31:04 UTC  |  Edited by: highonpop
nvm not worth it P


stop whining people. most of you are in your 20's and 30's an dyou whine like little girls

FC, what do?
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#84 - 2012-06-12 19:40:28 UTC
What's the matter Darth, did your 50th 'abloobloo incursions' thread get knocked off of page 1 again?
Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#85 - 2012-06-12 19:46:57 UTC
I think that re-jigging the programming for the UI was a great idea, but I also think that the way the UI was introduced was a disaster (it should have been introduced duplicating the functionality of the original and letting people discover the new functionality for themselves), and it still needs a lot of work; but CCP are improving it. It's still a bit annoying sometimes, and still a bit of a net downgrade from the old system in many ways, but it's more functional than it was when it was introduced. Keep at it, team Game of Drones!

Nerfing drone poo might just be the best thing CCP have done for quite some time. I have a suspicion that it may have been very nearly disastrous for the game (gun mining/botting).

BS are a bit too expensive now, perhaps, but the market will work its magic. Newbies will take things as they come.

Incursions are cool atmosphere-wise and lore-wise, but incursion runners quickly became too elitist for their shirts. What was supposed to be a way to have meaningful PvE PUG-ing quickly became elitist in a way equivalent to "raiding" in other games. One always feels sympathetic to players whose "thing" has been nerfed, but to say that "communities" have been destroyed seems a bit over the top. If the "community" can't handle a nerf, then there probably was no "community".
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#86 - 2012-06-12 19:55:18 UTC
Barbelo Valentinian wrote:

Incursions are cool atmosphere-wise and lore-wise, but incursion runners quickly became too elitist for their shirts.


The Incursion NERFs though actually made fleets more Elitist. A non shiney OTA fleet IMHO is fail and eventually all the Vanguards become pretty much 100% OTA's before downtime.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Komen
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2012-06-12 19:57:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Komen
The new inventory: A solution to a problem that didn't exist, but boy did it ever bring problems with it.

To all you empire bears saying 'it's fine, I like it', you are welcome to your opinion that you like it, but it is NOT fine. Try operating out of a POS. CCP Soundwave's comment about POS's being 'suicide inducing structures' became even more apt when, every time a corpmate swaps ships at a Ship Maintenance Array, everyone else in the POS gets lagged out. It is beyond ridiculous. The new inventory, performance-wise, is worse than pre-inferno old inventory. When I open a hangar, I want that sucker to open, get my ammo loaded, and be ready to go in a matter of seconds. I do not want to sit and stare at a slide-show because someone else in the POS just swapped his scout for a combat ship.


Inferno: Stealth nerfing wormholes.
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#88 - 2012-06-14 04:48:13 UTC
Komen wrote:
The new inventory: A solution to a problem that didn't exist, but boy did it ever bring problems with it.

To all you empire bears saying 'it's fine, I like it', you are welcome to your opinion that you like it, but it is NOT fine. Try operating out of a POS. CCP Soundwave's comment about POS's being 'suicide inducing structures' became even more apt when, every time a corpmate swaps ships at a Ship Maintenance Array, everyone else in the POS gets lagged out. It is beyond ridiculous. The new inventory, performance-wise, is worse than pre-inferno old inventory. When I open a hangar, I want that sucker to open, get my ammo loaded, and be ready to go in a matter of seconds. I do not want to sit and stare at a slide-show because someone else in the POS just swapped his scout for a combat ship.


Inferno: Stealth nerfing wormholes.


Hope you enjoy the UI on the 19th sounds like that will be the last major revamp of it for awhile while CCP scrambles to all the other fires created by Inferno bugs that have been ignored. 
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#89 - 2012-06-14 04:51:32 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Komen wrote:
The new inventory: A solution to a problem that didn't exist, but boy did it ever bring problems with it.

To all you empire bears saying 'it's fine, I like it', you are welcome to your opinion that you like it, but it is NOT fine. Try operating out of a POS. CCP Soundwave's comment about POS's being 'suicide inducing structures' became even more apt when, every time a corpmate swaps ships at a Ship Maintenance Array, everyone else in the POS gets lagged out. It is beyond ridiculous. The new inventory, performance-wise, is worse than pre-inferno old inventory. When I open a hangar, I want that sucker to open, get my ammo loaded, and be ready to go in a matter of seconds. I do not want to sit and stare at a slide-show because someone else in the POS just swapped his scout for a combat ship.


Inferno: Stealth nerfing wormholes.


Hope you enjoy the UI on the 19th sounds like that will be the last major revamp of it for awhile while CCP scrambles to all the other fires created by Inferno bugs that have been ignored.

How are Incursions going Darth?

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom
Atrocitus Parallax
Doomheim
#90 - 2012-06-14 13:40:58 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
The Unified Inventory was NOT ready for prime time, the incursion nerf KILLED whole communities, the drone/loot nerfs has made the economy outa whack to the point where newbies must be despairing over how many months it'll take them to be able to buy a BS.... and Dust bunnies 90210 is in the pipeline for he summer?
-IMHO give peeps the option to turn off the Unified Inventory like last year where the ship spinning was brought back.
-Unnerf the Incursions.
-Fix EVE voice because Escalation/Inferno really caused it to bomb!
-Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drone nerf not at the same Was the thinking everyone will buy PLEX to keep up or was that marketings idea over Dr E's objections of sinks over nerfs ? )
-Change the Vanguard OTA's
-Address the FW NPC implabances between Amarr/Minitmarr complexes

With DUST bunnies being the dice roll of the future of CCP & its comming soon CCP better act quick on the above or face the consequences like last year.


Hmmm, none of that have any idea about, so it must be unimportant to me, so I'm not worried about it.
Lenier Chenal
Offensive Upholder
#91 - 2012-06-14 15:06:05 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
The Unified Inventory was NOT ready for prime time, the incursion nerf KILLED whole communities, the drone/loot nerfs has made the economy outa whack to the point where newbies must be despairing over how many months it'll take them to be able to buy a BS.... and Dust bunnies 90210 is in the pipeline for he summer?
-IMHO give peeps the option to turn off the Unified Inventory like last year where the ship spinning was brought back.
-Unnerf the Incursions.
-Fix EVE voice because Escalation/Inferno really caused it to bomb!
-Bring back meta 0 loot ( this shoulda been phased in 1-2 months after the drone nerf not at the same Was the thinking everyone will buy PLEX to keep up or was that marketings idea over Dr E's objections of sinks over nerfs ? )
-Change the Vanguard OTA's
-Address the FW NPC implabances between Amarr/Minitmarr complexes

With DUST bunnies being the dice roll of the future of CCP & its comming soon CCP better act quick on the above or face the consequences like last year.


Cry more carebear. HTFU.