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exactly when is someone not "a Rookie"?

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Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-13 21:16:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
?

its a week? 2? 3? 15?

where does it say?

rules? in a sandbox? do tell?

We are our own worst enemy.

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-06-13 21:18:03 UTC
When they're capable of FCing to perfection, have perfect leadership skills, can fit properly and afford alone a titan, and own several tech moons.

Dodixie > Hek

AFK Hauler
State War Academy
#3 - 2012-06-13 21:32:12 UTC
When they say they are no longer being scammed in Jita.
Radelix Cisko
JUMP DRIVE ACTIVE
#4 - 2012-06-13 21:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Radelix Cisko
what if I or a trusty alt are running said scam in Jita?

What then?

Still so green I need pruning?


edit: inb4l0ck

Despite my posting prowess I really am terrible at this game

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#5 - 2012-06-13 21:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
when they stop petitioning every loss

it is funny that people who don't know what can flipping is, can manage to find the petition button....
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2012-06-13 21:35:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
They get kicked out of rookie chat after 30 days, if that's any indication…

Anyway, CCP is not going to tell you.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#7 - 2012-06-13 21:36:25 UTC
This thread is going somewhere.











To the bottom of the forums, with a lovely lock.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-13 21:36:31 UTC
Trollin wrote:
?

its a week? 2? 3? 15?

where does it say?

rules? in a sandbox? do tell?


It is not abut the time spent, it is the amount of accounts that matter.

Once you have a falcon alt, a neutral logi alt and a neutral booster alt you are no longer a rookie.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#9 - 2012-06-13 21:38:04 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
This thread is going somewhere.











To the bottom of the forums, with a lovely lock.


only after some ISD removes the excessive lines from your post Roll
Shalia Ripper
#10 - 2012-06-13 21:39:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalia Ripper
When their Space Bollocks drop.

*thanks for the suggestion, Cutter.

Sig blah blah blah blah

Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#11 - 2012-06-13 21:40:59 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
This thread is going somewhere.











To the bottom of the forums, with a lovely lock.


only after some ISD removes the excessive lines from your post Roll



The excessive lines in my post contain more useful information than half the posts on GD.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.

MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-06-13 21:41:19 UTC
The moment a player tells another player "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" is the day that player is no longer a rookie

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#13 - 2012-06-13 21:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vimsy Vortis
CCP won't ever tell you because if there was an actual definition they wouldn't be able to arbitrarily give out warnings to people without having to exercise any judgement at all.

I also love the part where the game is advertised as a sandbox in which you're allowed to do everything, except there's actually a list of very specific things that you aren't allowed to do and also you're not allowed to know what those things are, but you're still expected not to do them despite previously being told that you're allowed to do anything.

It's absolutely atrocious as a customer support policy and it's one of the games biggest failings as a service.
Danfen Fenix
#14 - 2012-06-13 22:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Danfen Fenix
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
CCP won't ever tell you because if there was an actual definition they wouldn't be able to arbitrarily give out warnings to people without having to exercise any judgement at all.





Argueably though, lets say they say its 14 days. You'll only get people trying to kill players who are 14 days 1 hour old...

This is one case where I think CCP/GMs should be allowed to use a variable judgment. Afterall, rookies are potential new, long term players. The more long term players they can get to stay, the better the game will become, afterall that is the best way of making the game grow (if it only grew through alts, we'll all get bored of each other after a while). Trying to keep them in the game provides benefits both to CCP (revenue) and us as a playerbase (more targets/friends/contacts/thieves/FCs/scammers/helpers/blah blah)

Edit: the limit 'should' be, however, around 30 days, as that is afterall the time you are kicked out of 'Rookie help', and thus apparently viewed by CCP as no longer a rookie.
Karl Hobb
Imperial Margarine
#15 - 2012-06-13 22:03:20 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
It's absolutely atrocious as a customer support policy and it's one of the games biggest failings as a service.

I wouldn't exactly say that... Rather, CCP is keeping the door open in order to grief whoever they want to.

A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-06-13 22:05:33 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
The moment a player tells another player "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" is the day that player is no longer a rookie


Wrong. I tell people that all the time and then fly carriers which I can technically afford to but really hate to lose into goon POSes.

Dodixie > Hek

Derus Grobb
Shifting Suns Industries
DammFam
#17 - 2012-06-13 22:06:34 UTC
Does it matter?
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-06-13 22:09:35 UTC
They are kicked from rookie chat after 30 days.

I'd imagine 30 days.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-13 22:09:36 UTC
If this is about GM involvement, why not give rookies a special color so everyone knows not to screw with them. It can be account based and time spent in game should be a factor.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#20 - 2012-06-13 22:27:38 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:



To the bottom of the forums, with a lovely lock.



/blush

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

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