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Crimes for Unposted Policies?

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#301 - 2012-06-13 19:24:01 UTC
How do I determine who a rookie or newbie player is, that's doing the SOE arc, in a cruiser?

And why is the SOE storyline considered a newbie mission? I would thing that the newbie missions are titled "tutorials".


If CCP want's a segment of players to be safe and immune to the miscreants of the EVE universe, then they should have specific systems set up within each empires space that doesn't allow for any non consensual pvp, that has very limitted belts, that limitts the types of ships that can be flown in them, and only offers tutorial missions. The moment someone leaves that system they should no longer be protected under any set of rules outside of what is already in place in every other system.

Or in the least they should just put a timer on a new ACCOUNT that prevents them from being attacked by another player. 40 hours or something like that for each a new account, and then put further restrictions on the trials so that it can't be abused by veteran players. The timer would naturally be removed once they entered a system of a specific sec level or lower




If I can target and shoot someone I should be able to target and shoot them. Having a rule that says you can target and shoot someone but shooting them may get you in trouble doesn't seem like the smart way to do things.

I understand that CCP wants new players to come to EVE, and that "throwing them to the sharks" right away isn't very encouraging to most new players. However, having rules that protect those players or that veteran playrs can take advantage of to protect themselves, in my opinion, is a rule that works at the expence of every other player.

Define your ineligible targets CCP. Don't have ineligibles that are eligible, and then tell the player you weren't allowed to do that. That's the definition of an unintelligent rule.
Gunny Sack
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#302 - 2012-06-13 19:32:33 UTC
GM Homonoia wrote:
Tl;dr We are extending our rookie griefing rules to the system of Arnon.

See our wiki page on this subject: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems

Let me state this very clearly here. We do NOT want experienced players to mess with rookies barely a week in. We are sure that you have worthier targets than these players who are still learning the ropes. If this behavior does not stop we may extend this rule to all systems that are covered in the Sisters of EVE epic arc. These systems are:

- Tar
- Harerget
- Hatakani
- Hek
- Lustrevik
- Tanoo
- Lisudeh
- Sosh
- Manarq
- Chainelant

Why is this rule solar-system-specific, if what you want is for people not to shoot the rookies? If I shoot rookies outside of noob systems and epic arc systems, is that okay?

Lay down the freaking law already instead of making people force you to do it. Like I'm now considering. I think not shooting rookies is a good thing. If what it takes to make that happen is forcing your hand, I'm prepared to get banned. In fact, those of you who would like to see noobs left alone should immediately begin creating noob accounts and griefing them with a second account.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#303 - 2012-06-13 19:34:45 UTC
I find it funny that I've been playing for years but have to do a google search to find the TOS and EULA for eve
Din Chao
#304 - 2012-06-13 19:37:44 UTC
What I learned in this thread: Lin-Young Borovskova is a prosecuting attorney's DREAM juror.
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#305 - 2012-06-13 19:44:36 UTC
Gunny Sack wrote:
GM Homonoia wrote:
Tl;dr We are extending our rookie griefing rules to the system of Arnon.

See our wiki page on this subject: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Systems

Let me state this very clearly here. We do NOT want experienced players to mess with rookies barely a week in. We are sure that you have worthier targets than these players who are still learning the ropes. If this behavior does not stop we may extend this rule to all systems that are covered in the Sisters of EVE epic arc. These systems are:

- Tar
- Harerget
- Hatakani
- Hek
- Lustrevik
- Tanoo
- Lisudeh
- Sosh
- Manarq
- Chainelant

Why is this rule solar-system-specific, if what you want is for people not to shoot the rookies? If I shoot rookies outside of noob systems and epic arc systems, is that okay?

Lay down the freaking law already instead of making people force you to do it. Like I'm now considering. I think not shooting rookies is a good thing. If what it takes to make that happen is forcing your hand, I'm prepared to get banned. In fact, those of you who would like to see noobs left alone should immediately begin creating noob accounts and griefing them with a second account.



Be sure to contract everything but the bare essentials that you'll need to me before you go on this crusade. I'll keep it safe for you until you get back, if you get back.

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Possum's Awesome
Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo
#306 - 2012-06-13 19:45:06 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Possum's Awesome wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
People gank rookies because they are sad little bastards. It is their mindset to automatically go for the weakest and the youngest targets, mostly because rookies are almost entirely incapable of knowing how or when to fight back.


Another sad carebear projecting his own thought process on other players.

This game, ultimately, is about one player blowing up* (teehee) another PERIOD, DOT, End of Sentence.

All those rookie poppers are doing is introducing them to the cold hard truth of EVE. They're trying right from the start to filter out the whiney little anti-pvp kids from those that can understand what this game is about right from day one.

Aura tells rookies what to expect from this game, if they ignore that lovely voice, they do so at their own peril.

There's a rookie channel for those newbies, there's Aura, there's the forums, there's thousands of newbie articles. Countless resources for those new guys to go to, to figure out what's happened and how to stop it.


You, sir, are a doodyhead. Poopbreath.


First up, what has me being a carebear got to do with anything? Secondly, all those rookie poppers are doing is proving how well the mentally disturbed/low IQ community are doing at finding something to do on the internet, that does not mean it is a good thing.

As for your assertion that there are plenty of resources for noobs, you are absolutely correct, what you seem to have forgotten, or were maybe too poorly educated to understand, is that people need time to assimilate all that information. That's why rookies are given more protection than everyone else.

If all of this is too difficult for you to follow, I would be happy to arrange for the cast of sesame street to perform this post for you, with the aid of crayon pictures and smaller words.


No you fart face carebear baby womp rat burp head. You're absolutely wrong. Go hug a mission agent you baby puke breath bed hair dooky stain.
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#307 - 2012-06-13 20:18:47 UTC
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