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Looking for a skill planner with no installation
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Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-13 17:26:29 UTC
subject says it all. i can't install evemon on my work systep thanks to no .NET installation or something similar. eft works fine, in comparison, thanks to basically no install program or registry keys required. anyone know of a program that allows for skill planning? implants and remapping a plus.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#2 - 2012-06-13 19:33:05 UTC
I got my first skillplanner at Walmart. It was in the school supplies section, listed as a 'notebook'.

As for online apps: I seriously dont know of another app besides Evemon.
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-06-13 19:39:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Wingmate
har! har! worthless post is worthless.

someone sent me a mail about the Ships Skills Planner, which i can't use because i can't access the api to get my skills, and the Mobile Skills Planner, which is a phone app and something i can't use at work. anyone got any other suggestions?

edit: got another mail about evehq, which requires an installation as well.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Allyria Kylari
Blue asteroids
#4 - 2012-06-14 03:18:58 UTC
Just look up the formulas and calculate them yourself. You can do it in Excel. It's much much easier now without learning skills to optimize training plans for.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-06-14 06:14:38 UTC
Just figure out which modules you need to be able to use. You can use the notepad in-game to jot down which skills you need so you can remember. If you jot down the module name next to the skill, it'll help you remember why you want it, and how badly you want it. Then you can glance through your notepad when you need to pick a skill to put in the queue.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

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Desmont McCallock
#6 - 2012-06-14 06:46:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Desmont McCallock
I don't know if anyone told you but EVEMon can run from a USB stick (the installer is just for the ease of things).
http://wiki.battleclinic.com/index.php/EVEMonPortable
The ugly part for you though may be the fact that EVEMon since 1.3.4 requires that .NET 4 is installed on the machine (full not the client version).
Still though you will need access to API so I guess even this way, you won't be able to use EVEMon for anything other than the planner.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#7 - 2012-06-14 11:47:21 UTC
Eve Mon and Eve HQ are the standards.

Maybe your not ment to worry about such things at work. Roll
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-14 13:13:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Wingmate
Allyria Kylari wrote:
Just look up the formulas and calculate them yourself. You can do it in Excel. It's much much easier now without learning skills to optimize training plans for.


yes, it's so much easier to track 400 skills in excel with all the requisite data. how could i have not realized this?

the idea isn't to track one simple plan. it's to fotz with a bunch of different plans until i figure out what i want. something like excel really takes the balls from a tool designed for this.

Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Just figure out which modules you need to be able to use. You can use the notepad in-game to jot down which skills you need so you can remember. If you jot down the module name next to the skill, it'll help you remember why you want it, and how badly you want it. Then you can glance through your notepad when you need to pick a skill to put in the queue.


if i can't install .NET at work, what makes you think that i can play the game there?

Desmont McCallock wrote:
I don't know if anyone told you but EVEMon can run from a USB stick (the installer is just for the ease of things).
http://wiki.battleclinic.com/index.php/EVEMonPortable
The ugly part for you though may be the fact that EVEMon since 1.3.4 requires that .NET 4 is installed on the machine (full not the client version).
Still though you will need access to API so I guess even this way, you won't be able to use EVEMon for anything other than the planner.


this is better information, honestly, but i think it still wouldn't help because i can't get .NET on there. i didn't know you could portable-ize it.

Ireland VonVicious wrote:
Eve Mon and Eve HQ are the standards.

Maybe your not ment to worry about such things at work. Roll


i use it on breaks and my lunch. although, i forgot about evehq completely! i'll give that a shot.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Flakey Foont
#9 - 2012-06-14 15:33:12 UTC
I had an answer but your attitude put me off sorry.
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-06-14 15:52:31 UTC
sorry for requesting that people use their brain. enjoy that knowledge.

still haven't tested evehq. will look at it later today when i'm not so busy.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Lukriss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-06-14 21:56:18 UTC
gtkevemon.
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-15 13:31:21 UTC
this also looks tasty. i'll try them both out.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-06-15 13:53:19 UTC
eveHQ requires SQL Servier, GTKEveMon requires GTKmm library. both need admin approval for install.

still looking =/

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Col Arran
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-06-17 09:24:33 UTC
Wingmate wrote:
sorry for requesting that people use their brain. enjoy that knowledge.


Says the one who scoffed at doing the calculations manually and wants a script to do it all for him.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#15 - 2012-06-17 22:02:11 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
RavenPaine wrote:
I got my first skillplanner at Walmart. It was in the school supplies section, listed as a 'notebook'.

As for online apps: I seriously dont know of another app besides Evemon.


I like the yellow legal pad better.

Oh, and if you are unhappy with the current, user provided applications, this might be your time to shine, as a user, by providing a skill planner that never needs admin access.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Srioghal moDhream
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-18 15:40:09 UTC
1.) install on home computer
2.)leave computer on all day
3.)port forwarding to your computer on router
4.)?????
5.)remote desktop 4tw
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-06-18 16:09:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Wingmate
Srioghal moDhream wrote:
1.) install on home computer
2.)leave computer on all day
3.)port forwarding to your computer on router
4.)?????
5.)remote desktop 4tw


blocked at work. already tried it =)

Col Arran wrote:
Wingmate wrote:
sorry for requesting that people use their brain. enjoy that knowledge.


Says the one who scoffed at doing the calculations manually and wants a script to do it all for him.


because there's a ton of correlation between having ~400 skills, their train times, my current implant settings, and a pencil and paper, and a computer program that you use to manage numbers, remap attributes, and automatically handle calculations when on your break. looooove it.

RubyPorto wrote:
Oh, and if you are unhappy with the current, user provided applications, this might be your time to shine, as a user, by providing a skill planner that never needs admin access.


it's starting to look like i'll have to do that =/ i was hoping to find something already, even an excel sheet that could handle it, but everything's designed around the .NET libraries or some other utility.

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
GavinCapacitor
CaeIum Incognitum
#18 - 2012-06-18 17:37:30 UTC
Use logmein to see your computer at home, and run evemon there. All you need is but a single tab on your browser

Bonus: plans are always 'synced' between work and home, and anyone inspecting the machine wont find anything.

What do I win?
Wingmate
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-06-18 18:05:03 UTC
logmein as a site is blocked, along with all other RDP-type technologies. i tried windows RDP, logmein, teamviewer, VNC, and a few others.

good try though - i hadn't actually tested logmein, but it still doesn't work =/

i make spreadsheets for pretty cheap. contact me for more info.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=197433
Srioghal moDhream
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-06-18 18:08:25 UTC
Usa a proxy to get to logmein
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