EVE General Discussion

It absolutely affects my game play. You know why? Because it costs money and time, resources best spent improving the game. Good localization is not cheap.



I introduced several to EVE. They didn't quit because the game wasn't in spanish, they quit because they moved on with their lives. Four of them used to play WoW, and refused to play the Spanish client after using it for a few weeks. Why? Because the translation was meh, and the english client was what they were used to as well as provided a decent introduction to new english words to add to their vocabulary.



Your average Japanese person has a much, much poorer grasp of European languages than your average Spanish speaker. The language gap is massive in that case, and a localized client is almost necessary.



Trust me, I know who Vera Cruz are. We're currently screwing them in the ass. I'm pretty certain I have a significantly better grasp of the geopolitical situation in Fountain and Delve than you do, considering 95% of my playtime takes place there. Please don't attempt to educate me about it.

I was praising them because they are a large, cohesive group of primarily Brazilian gamers who actually managed to establish a half decent alliance. They put themselves in a position where they actually influence the game as a whole to some small degree. Only cohesive communities can do that.

800mm Repeterande Artilleri II

Okay, some terms would be kinda cool in Swedish.

Adaptivt Osårbarhets Fält II

Then, you have those that wouldn't be cool.

/facedesk

I disagree on the time and money thing because I've seen first hand how this is handled in corporate america. You don't hire a "Spanish only" customer rep. You hire a "bilingual" customer rep that can speak both English and Spanish. When there's a Spanish client on the Spanish queue, the bilingual guy gets it. When the Spanish queue is empty, he works on the English queue. Does he gets more salary? Maybe .25 cents an hour. I live in Florida, trust me, I know this.

On my last job, the customer care department had 15 people and they served English, Spanish, German, Russian, Cantonese, Arabic, French, Italian, Portuguese and there was a Hindu guy who spoke like 6 different India-specific languages (Hindi, Farsi and some others). Highest salary in the department, $11.50 bucks an hour. The contractors that cleaned the carpets made more money than the translators.

Shameless, you do your cause no good by waving the "Racist Card" around like a sword.


Just saying.

It is what it is mate.



Don't avoid the questions. "quite a bit" is not a dollar amount. "a whole damn worth" is not an amount of pages. You know nothing about translations sir. Nothing.



Negative, I was the team lead of the programming team who made the software to access the phone manuals from the sales booths (AKA the Kiosks), making 75k a year (still kinda crap salary for all the work I did). They were translating the content for my team's project, so I got stuck with supervising that sub-project as well. I also did the programming for the bilingual phone routing of both the IVR and the Predictive Calling (Interactive Voice Response, when you call them... Predictive Calling, when their collectors call you).

You never read any of the manuals whose translations I supervised, yet you criticize/belittle them. More proof you are acting out of racism and hate. Either that or you just love to troll and criticize things you know nothing about.



"My roommate"... so you are a 20something year old college student with no idea how corporate america works. Come back to me when you have some years of experience in the field.

You really ought to stop bothering, shameless, if all you're going to do is accuse people of racism while calling the translation of a goddamn cell phone manual anything close to a proper translation project. I'm willing to bet you're one of those "latinos" who grew up in Miami and thinks he's the real deal, hence the race card flying out whenever a person disagrees with you.

I'm sure your experience working with ****** instruction manual translations makes you more qualified than my MMO developer roommate and myself. Clearly that one project turned you into a world-class expert with a deep understanding of the intricacies of trying to convey the full meaning of a statement.

I don't think you have a goddamn clue what goes into the localization of an entire video game. We're talking about a 6 month to 1 year project involving dozens of people, alongside several permanent employees to provide customer support and continued localization as the game grows.

That's not a laughing matter when you're talking about a company that had to lay off its entire community relations staff just a few months back.

The really funny part is that you think I'm lying.

And sure, you can do an awful ******* translation in 3 weeks. I don't think you understand the difficulty in translating something well. Seriously, this isn't hard to understand, but you don't seem to be able to grasp it.

Here, translate this for me.

"preguntando iba atizando su propia ofuscación y sentía unos irreprimibles deseos de soltarse a despotricar como un forastero y de permitirse por fin un instante de rebeldía , el instante tantas veces anhelado y tantas veces aplazado de meterse la resignación por el fundamento y cagarse de una vez en todo y sacarse del corazón los infinitos montodes de malas palabras que había tenido que atragantarse en todo un siglo de conformidad. "

I eagerly await your laughable literal translation.

Oh, and protip: the sheer volume of text and code that goes into an MMO is roughly equivalent to a half dozen AAA titles.

You're proving my point :P

Also, lol. I can't help it, when confronted by stupid, i have to fix it.

actually thats not true. i've played plenty of games with native japanese speakers. they learn english as their second language and are quite good at it. way better then most in latin countries who dont have to learn english as a second language.

Well, you're a couple edits from Shameless's level of translation proficiency.