Warfare & Tactics

Pred looks like he did a good job. Its hard to tell if you did anything wrong without hearing the comms since it is such a big battle.

The only thing I saw (and I love analyzing battles to learn from) is that there was a lot of split fire and not just on the primary. I could tell this by wathcing the targets you locked up, both shields were dropping at the same time.

Pred did a good job calling the bail order

Battlereport is here.

Most losses to Caldari came when the 2nd cyno bridged in Snuff box t3 fleet there. With links up they could snag too many boats with webs/scrams before we managed to pull range and that was it pretty much it.

Personally I had massively underestimated amount of ammo I needed so my Talos ran out of Null L at about half-way of the fight so some of the split fire might be that

Looked like a fun fight, far as your question about anything to help you improve.

1) Shoot scourge in a Drake. (granted I dunno what your ammo situation was at the time)

Most of the time if you are in a fleet it's much better to shoot scourge than EM, because scourge is the bonused ammo for the Drake. Even vs Drakes most people use a EM rig, which means the bonused scourge will do more damage even though you are shooting at the highest resist.

If the Drake has no EM rig, then the EM ammo will do better, but in a fleet fight it's better to just stick to your bonused ammo. With that fight there were 3 Chimera's which one might assume would lead to a shield fleet, but the guardians kinda gave away the rest of the gang was armor tanked. This means by shooting EM ammo you were shooting at their average highest resist with un-bonused ammo.



2) This is more for the entire gang, rather than just your self, but "ALWAYS" stay moving.

This prevents what happened in the end of the fight with Snuff being able to cyno in right on top of your location. Even just passively aligned with MWD's off, it's hard for a cloaky with enough grid for a cyno to get right on top of you. (a cvt op could still catch you but very unlikely a Arazu would have the speed cloaked to get right on top of you)

3) Going back to the always stay moving.

When you guys bailed and landed at the Sun.. Always click on "anything" and get aligned/moving again and burn your MWD to get distance, while you are figuring out where you need to regroup.. When you are in the run mode, you have to be ready to bounce to a new location the second you land in case they send fast tackle to catch you.

Always align to something and start moving the second you land if you are not on a gate or station. Even in a fight I tend to pick my alignments via things I can easily make a small correction on to be-able to warp to it. (never just aligned to no where)

Anyway looks like you had fun and the switching target stuff will get easier as you get more experience

First mistake was not to ungroup your guns and shoot 1 missile to each enemy.. that's what every good PVPer does.. or it seems like in the blobs I have been in, gotta get on the KM.....
Just messing by the way.
I am not an FC, but I do prefer to be FC'd by FC's who broadcast targets, that way everyone shoots the same target. You can change your fleet history to not show logi requests if you DPS, that way FC broadcasts are easy to pickup. Also noticed you, ,and maybe the whole fleet, only anchored up later in the fight. I have found if you don't anchor up, I always anchor on the FC(keep at range) unless told not to, that way at least you always in range of the targets the fc calls and keeps the fleet moving. That way if the fleet needs to gtfo, the FC can align somewhere and warp the whole fleet out at the same time. This helps a lot when there are new fleet members who are just so excited to be shooting stuff they barely get the fc calls, erm.. like me
I am also new to fleet fights, well pvp in genral, so these are my observation from what I have experienced, so don't take them to bee too critical...

EDIT-- not always a good idea to always just use scourge.. some smart FC's will see a drake fleet coming and will ask the fleet to change tank accordingly...

Wait, did Snuff blue Nightsong?

That makes me sad.