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Fairness is NOT A Design Philosophy

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masternerdguy
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-06-13 03:53:59 UTC
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1463797#post1463797

I love you CCP Soundwave. I can quote this into infinity whenever someone cries on the forums about "balancing" hulks and destroyers.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-06-13 04:00:33 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1463797#post1463797

I love you CCP Soundwave. I can quote this into infinity whenever someone cries on the forums about "balancing" hulks and destroyers.


truth be told, if you're out in eve, and you're itching for a fight, and if you can't find a vastly inferior target, the best way to get the fight is to engage a vastly superior target, as that's usually the best way to ensure the people you're attacking won't just run away.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=118961

EvE = Everybody Vs. Everybody

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#3 - 2012-06-13 04:19:06 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
truth be told, if you're out in eve, and you're itching for a fight, and if you can't find a vastly inferior target, the best way to get the fight is to engage a vastly superior target, as that's usually the best way to ensure the people you're attacking won't just run away.


That's because there is usually no reason to stay and fight other than the opportunity to blow someone else's ship up.
Spadeus
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-06-13 04:20:18 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1463797#post1463797

I love you CCP Soundwave. I can quote this into infinity whenever someone cries on the forums about "balancing" hulks and destroyers.



You know... because his post had anything at all to do with that.

He was talking about the mechanics of war declarations between corps, not random griefing attacks in high sec.
Greyscale Dash
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-06-13 04:23:38 UTC
Spadeus wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1463797#post1463797

I love you CCP Soundwave. I can quote this into infinity whenever someone cries on the forums about "balancing" hulks and destroyers.



You know... because his post had anything at all to do with that.

He was talking about the mechanics of war declarations between corps, not random griefing attacks in high sec.


So now anyone who ganks hulks is a griefer?

Well, there goes the entire "EVE is about industrial warfare" concept.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#6 - 2012-06-13 05:18:02 UTC
Spadeus wrote:
masternerdguy wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1463797#post1463797

I love you CCP Soundwave. I can quote this into infinity whenever someone cries on the forums about "balancing" hulks and destroyers.



You know... because his post had anything at all to do with that.

He was talking about the mechanics of war declarations between corps, not random griefing attacks in high sec.


Didn't anyone explain to you what this game is about on the way in? I guess not.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.

Peta Michalek
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-13 05:29:59 UTC
Spadeus wrote:
You know... because his post had anything at all to do with that.

He was talking about the mechanics of war declarations between corps, not random griefing attacks in high sec.


Welcome to EVE forums.

I've never seen a community more prone to taking dev quotes out of context, or taking blatant publicity pieces and toting them as the pillars of game design.

Of course, that happens only when it suits their agenda: If CCP X said "EVE is all about pissing on the other guy", the quote would be repasted and relinked in 90% of General Discussion threads; if CCP Y said "We think the game is pretty balaned at the moment" he would be flamed to hell and back.

You'll get used to it.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
#8 - 2012-06-13 05:37:19 UTC
Posting in another pointless MNG thread.
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-06-13 13:52:45 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
Posting in another pointless MNG thread.


Not so pointless since you replied.

Things are only impossible until they are not.

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-13 14:11:03 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
Posting in another pointless MNG thread.


Not so pointless since you replied.


Quoting another pointless MNG reply. But I agree. Destroyers should be able to pew mining barges, in the same way Somali pirates in tiny rafts should be able to take over cargo ships.

Dodixie > Hek

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#11 - 2012-06-13 14:32:26 UTC
Hint to the OP and CCP Soundwave: fairness and balance are not the same thing.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
#12 - 2012-06-13 15:31:22 UTC
masternerdguy wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:

Why would I want to balance a fight? That's never really been the goal in EVE and the war dec system wasn't built for that either.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1463797#post1463797

I love you CCP Soundwave. I can quote this into infinity whenever someone cries on the forums about "balancing" hulks and destroyers.



...and this is why they need to return the value to high sec.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-06-13 15:40:35 UTC
If the fight is fair, you have already lost.
If the fight appears to be in your favor, there is something your enemy has that you overlooked.