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[BIG BETTING] AT10 BIG Betting site is live (Betting now open)

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TornSoul
BIG
#21 - 2012-06-01 18:25:44 UTC
Fish Brain wrote:
Quote:

23 Goonswarm OHGOD


This isn't the Goonswarm you're looking for.



Changed to Goonswarm Federation
TornSoul
BIG
#22 - 2012-06-01 18:27:07 UTC
The official schedule for the first round has now been released and the AT10 website has been updated accordingly.


This in essense means that betting can already begin!
TornSoul
BIG
#23 - 2012-06-02 19:36:41 UTC
Well well, first 31 bets are already in - That was quick.

One bet for each of the individual matches the first weekend - except match 26 for some reason Pirate

Go take a look, and see if you agree, and if not, maybe put down some ISK on the other team Big smile
Arch Stanton's Neighbour
Forceful Resource Acquisition Inc
#24 - 2012-06-04 21:03:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Arch Stanton's Neighbour
How's this a sticky?

Does that mean CCP will be backing it in case it turns out to be a scam?

Or that the person running the bets is friends with a CCP dev?

That smells very very fishy.

From their site: "If noone has made a counterbet (to your wining bet), you will simply get your ISK back (no fees)
A losing bet it still a losing bet regardless (no refund)" woow that's not very fair. So basically you're betting against yourself -- 50% chance of loss, 50% chance of not winning.
TornSoul
BIG
#25 - 2012-06-05 20:01:34 UTC
X ATM092
The Hatchery
RAZOR Alliance
#26 - 2012-06-05 23:44:20 UTC
CCP Loxy wrote:
Made a sticky.

Does this mean the service is endorsed by CCP?
TornSoul
BIG
#27 - 2012-06-06 10:15:50 UTC
Google wrote:

Endorse
1. Declare one's public approval or support of.

If going by Google's definition I guess you could argue that they do (although that's for CCP to say)

If you want to expand that definition to include if they'll cover any losses if it's a scam - I'd bet (pun intended) anything they would not.
It would be egg on their face though, having "endorsed" it in the first place.

I've however been offering this service, to the best of my abilities, for every alliance tournament since the very first one many many moons ago, so why would I suddenly pick ATX to scam everyone...
huja
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-06-06 11:08:01 UTC
Well 10 is a nice even number.
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#29 - 2012-06-13 00:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk
made 21 bets just now, quite like betting on individual matches

and since history has proven me to be a terrible gambler everyone should go bet against me once the numbers are updated )))
TornSoul
BIG
#30 - 2012-06-14 22:58:56 UTC
Numbers are updated.

There was a bug.... So thanks for posting that you had made the bets, so I got aware something was a miss (since the numbers didn't update)

Total of 133 valid bets made so far.
A handful of "large" bets, that it might be worth betting against with a mill or five "just in case" P
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#31 - 2012-06-14 23:32:33 UTC
brb betting against raiden.
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-06-15 07:18:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Jude Lloyd
Heres a suggestion - put all your bets on Heretic Nation. Or don't and just send us some iskies.

I'm back!
kingblade
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-06-30 16:31:46 UTC
I made several bets and none of them have shown up. Followed all of the requirements and nada.
Gruesome Nick
Turbo Bearnaise Enterprises
#34 - 2012-06-30 16:59:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Gruesome Nick
Same here, a bet I made yesterday is showing correctly but not the ones I made today.
TornSoul
BIG
#35 - 2012-06-30 17:25:22 UTC
On it.

Seems that some part(s) of my code ain't doing UTC datetime correctly...
Thus some bets have been flagged as being done too late even though they were on time.

Sorry about that
Will fix as soon as I've found where the bug is...
Gruesome Nick
Turbo Bearnaise Enterprises
#36 - 2012-06-30 17:26:53 UTC
Thanks for the update.
TornSoul
BIG
#37 - 2012-06-30 17:59:04 UTC
lol - Just noticed that there's currently 666 bets in the AT10 DB.

Maybe that's why I'm having trouble finding the 'damn' bug Twisted
Mike Huntsweat
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#38 - 2012-06-30 18:19:56 UTC
I made the mistake of listing each of the matches as Match #1 but listing the teams i thought would win.
I know i did this wrong and hold my hands up and know im not getting my isk back.

But i then rectified my mistake and changed them to A 10001 , A 10002 etc or whatever the code is - only these bets , which to my knowledge is correct , arn't showing up on the database , yet my old bets which are wrong , are...

Any help / response that is usefull would be welcome - cheers.
TornSoul
BIG
#39 - 2012-06-30 18:48:12 UTC
OK found it.

My UTC datetime handling was just fine (pwew, as I took some pains to ensure that, so was a bit miffed that seemed to be the issue)

It'll be a little while before I get the DB cleaned up so your valid bets will show up, but the code should now be fine (fingers crossed) for any further betting made.

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Lesson : (tech stuff)
When doing a for-loop, remember to reset *all* your (success criteria) variables... ::blush:: (what a beginner mistake... sigh)

Basically I'm checking each bet that
a: the value is above 1M ISK
b: the reason field is "well formed"
c: the bet is made on time

*Any* of those fail and I set "Invalid = true"
For (legacy reasons) I also single out a bet if it's otherwise OK, but fails c and thus I set "TooLate = true"

I correctly reset "invalid" for each row, but had forgotten to reset "TooLate"....
So while processing the current batch of bets made, if one was "TooLate", then the rest would be "TooLate" as well (as the "TooLate variable never got reset) - And thus the bet would not show up as a valid bet.

In hindsigt I should have found that one faster, as I had entries in the DB saying
"TooLate = True" AND "Invalid=False" which should not be possible (if it's TooLate, it's of course also Invalid)
The stress of trying to find the bug made me go "I'll figure that one out later"....

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@kingblade
A couple of your bets *are* invalid, as they are made too late - Check your wallet timestamps...


@Mike Huntsweat
I did notice a ton of invalid bets for match #1.
I'll have to get back to you on that one - Need to clean up the DB first for the other guys.
Mike Huntsweat
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#40 - 2012-06-30 19:07:22 UTC
Yeah.
I mistook the first drop down option.

If there's anyway you could honor those bets as the correct way they should be listed , e.g Agony #1 , Dead terrorist #2 Raiden #3 etc that would be awesome.

If not then i'll have to lump it i guess haha.