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CSM 7 Spring Summit Review - Parts I & II

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Bossy Lady
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#21 - 2012-06-12 16:57:16 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Andrea Griffin wrote:
I sense bitter, jealous resentment.

Thank you for your efforts Seleene. This seems to be one of the best and most productive CSMs in a while. ♥


don't confuse my disdain for useless expenditures with bitterness.
I read the blog and there was nothing in there that requires a group of "chosen ones" to relay to the customer base.

The CSM has become a joke, and a bad one at that.
I love that you want to be a part of something important, but the sad fact is you're paid patsies, a puppet government used for PR, you get wined and dined and sit around watching CCP work and then relay less information (due to NDAs and other legal poop) than the average Dev puts in a blog post.

you are bloat, plain and simple.



This is the most jealous post I have ever seen on GD.

Gratz on raising the bar I guess.

Posting on this character because apparently some people get upset when they're asked difficult questions. M.

Xenuria
#22 - 2012-06-12 17:51:11 UTC
Maybe if I pull all my resources I will get on CSM 8.
That would be nice.

I could hang out with the cool kidz and the devs can teach me how to get girls.
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-06-12 17:53:33 UTC
i guess 0.0 will be iterated on next year
maybe

votes well spent
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#24 - 2012-06-12 18:07:42 UTC
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... I guess if it doesn't affect 0.0 Alliances or Mercenaries it doesn't matter to CSM7. I assume you saw the numbers on this: have the Drone bounties exceeded the amount of ISK taken out with the Incursion NERF?
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Max Swagger
New Eden Browncoats
#25 - 2012-06-12 18:12:59 UTC
Great stuff.


Great to hear the CCP devs actually want to chat the CSM and the CSM's role seem s to be getting more formalized each year.
Keep up the good work.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-06-12 18:19:09 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... I guess if it doesn't affect 0.0 Alliances or Mercenaries it doesn't matter to CSM7. I assume you saw the numbers on this: have the Drone bounties exceeded the amount of ISK taken out with the Incursion NERF?


You're not getting your ISK fountain back.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#27 - 2012-06-12 18:21:34 UTC
Morganta wrote:
while we appreciate your enthusiasm, the CSM is about as useful as boobs on the pope



Addendum: useless without The Mittani

~10,058~

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#28 - 2012-06-12 18:58:17 UTC
Ok read the whole thing and i am getting excited...

just a few questions

1. iteration is there any plan to iterate on missions/complexes ? i know they added in a few complexes for serp... but in all the mission system has not been really iterated since i started to play in 06... (ok so they got rid of quality and stuff but angel extravaganza is still the same)

2. any hint on the new ships... pretty please...

3. since ccp tallest is back any chance he will iterate on weapon balance... we were so close to a great breakthrew in balance before the twins were born... i just hope that this is not put on the back burner for another year...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#29 - 2012-06-12 19:02:00 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too... I guess if it doesn't affect 0.0 Alliances or Mercenaries it doesn't matter to CSM7. I assume you saw the numbers on this: have the Drone bounties exceeded the amount of ISK taken out with the Incursion NERF?


You assume that nullsec alliances don't run Incursions? Also, what about the recent devblog where they rolled back then 10% isk and system control nerfs?

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#30 - 2012-06-12 19:04:10 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too...


This is all being worked on right now. There was a dev blog released today. If you check some of the replies in the comment thread of that blog there's more information about what the dev team is doing. It's not being left alone by any means.

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#31 - 2012-06-12 19:05:07 UTC
Seleene wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too...


This is all being worked on right now. There was a dev blog released today. If you check some of the replies in the comment thread of that blog there's more information about what the dev team is doing. It's not being left alone by any means.


Just let him be mad, it's funnier that way.

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#32 - 2012-06-12 19:06:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Seleene
MeBiatch wrote:
Ok read the whole thing and i am getting excited...

just a few questions

1. iteration is there any plan to iterate on missions/complexes ? i know they added in a few complexes for serp... but in all the mission system has not been really iterated since i started to play in 06... (ok so they got rid of quality and stuff but angel extravaganza is still the same)

2. any hint on the new ships... pretty please...

3. since ccp tallest is back any chance he will iterate on weapon balance... we were so close to a great breakthrew in balance before the twins were born... i just hope that this is not put on the back burner for another year...


1.) That is essentially what the 'Content' meeting was about. CCP is looking at doing a big re-vamp of missions in the future, it's just a question of resource allocation with regard to other projects.

2.) No new supercaps.

3.) Well, even though it's not specifically stated, ship and weapon balance are pretty much the same thing. The balance team knows that sometimes it's the weapon and not the ship that is the issue and tackle the problem accordingly.

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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#33 - 2012-06-12 19:27:24 UTC
Sweet thanks for the update... Oh get a hair cutt you look like jason london fron dazed and confused lol...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Barbelo Valentinian
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-06-12 19:29:19 UTC
Excellent write-ups - keep up the good work! Big smile
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-06-12 19:42:49 UTC
You mentioned wanting to get Treaties revived, how close to 'done' were they before the release of Dominion? If the will at CCP was there, are they something which could literally be dug out and bolted on tomorrow, or would they still need some work to get them into a functioning state (I'm assuming the last time they got looked at was back when you were working for CCP) ?

If you can't answer this due to CSM and/or former employee NDAs, fair enough but I am curious about them.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Lipbite
Express Hauler
#36 - 2012-06-12 19:47:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Thanks for info but as hi-sec carebear this is what I've found interesting: ...

Where are news for those 50% who play mostly solo and 75% who doesn't interesting in PvP?! Oh, wait, there is only one hi-sec dweller in CSM - no wonder there aren't any interesting news for like half of EVE population.
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#37 - 2012-06-12 19:53:41 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
You mentioned wanting to get Treaties revived, how close to 'done' were they before the release of Dominion? If the will at CCP was there, are they something which could literally be dug out and bolted on tomorrow, or would they still need some work to get them into a functioning state (I'm assuming the last time they got looked at was back when you were working for CCP) ?


The original 'state' of treaties was essentially 'design complete' and had been through release planning prior to Tyrannis. Of course, we're talking about three years ago and the feature being discussed today will probably be similar to what was originally planned but it's going through its own design phase now. It won't be the exact same thing. But what you're asking is if it's something that could be bolted on asap? No. It wasn't much beyond the design stage originally and that's essentially where it is now. The good part though is that it's something the CSM and community will get a chance to offer a lot of feedback on before it goes live and I'm pretty optimistic about all of the stuff it might be able to do.

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2007-2010: CCP Game Designer | 2011-2013: CSM6 Delegate & CSM7 Chairman

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#38 - 2012-06-12 19:56:51 UTC
As always, thanks.

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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#39 - 2012-06-12 20:00:01 UTC
Seleene wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too...


This is all being worked on right now. There was a dev blog released today. If you check some of the replies in the comment thread of that blog there's more information about what the dev team is doing. It's not being left alone by any means.


If you think those 2 changes are going to do anything about the deaths of multiple communitesyou are SERIOUSLY ignorant about Incursions.
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#40 - 2012-06-12 20:06:46 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Seleene wrote:
DarthNefarius wrote:
Nothing on the death of the Incursion communities in NULL/LO Sec? HI SEC communities are on life support too...


This is all being worked on right now. There was a dev blog released today. If you check some of the replies in the comment thread of that blog there's more information about what the dev team is doing. It's not being left alone by any means.


If you think those 2 changes are going to do anything about the deaths of multiple communitesyou are SERIOUSLY ignorant about Incursions.


Very true. The ties of blood and brotherhood among the Incursion communities run deep... just not so deep as our overwhelming greed...

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