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Rootkit, Virus, or overlly sensitive antivirus

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Surf Bum
#21 - 2011-10-06 07:35:03 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
You new to EVE ain't you


No. What makes you think that? Just because there are botters in the game does not mean they aren't logging the information.
Naran Eto
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2011-10-06 07:41:07 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Naran Eto wrote:


orly?

Live
Objective
Decisive
Adaptive
Active
informative

I get it...... Roll


Live. Live what? Can be dangerous...
Objective. What? can be dangerous....
Decisive. Bad decisions are dangerous...
Adaptive. Adaptive Nano Membranes on the wrong fit are dangerous...
Active. Can be REEEEEALY dangerous....
Informative. You blabber too much to the wrong people.. dangerous to yourself..


Note the bolded inthe below quote...

The Apostle wrote:

Anything that ends with "ive" is dangerous. Invasive, explosive, mishchive. What?


Those word i listed can be dangerous but can also be good, so not every word ending with ive IS dangerous Blink
Surf Bum
#23 - 2011-10-06 07:47:28 UTC
CCP Spitfire wrote:
Yep, thanks for the info. I'll let you know as soon as I hear back.


If it helps, the eve client repair tool didn't find any issues.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-10-06 07:51:35 UTC
Surf Bum:

A) any invasive DRM is bad. rootkits are bad because they are invasive too. I don't like stuff I can't control in my computer. do you?

B) it's a false positive. get a better AV, like avast.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#25 - 2011-10-06 07:52:06 UTC
Surf Bum wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
You new to EVE ain't you


No. What makes you think that? Just because there are botters in the game does not mean they aren't logging the information.


Now you are trying too hard.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2011-10-06 07:56:29 UTC
Surf Bum wrote:
That's like saying matches are bad because they burn down forests. Don't confuse the tool with the intention. It just sounds bad because they got a lot of coverage from virus writers abusing them.


Matches are selective and go out after only a few seconds.

Rootkits are more like a pill of Chlorine triflouride.

Once you start them going, they don't go out without amazing amounts of hassle.

But thats not even the main problem. The main problem is that rootkits, by their very nature, are covert. There are ways to run things with elevated privileges that DO NOT require hiding the fact that it is being done from the user. If you have to hide it, I don't want it done on my PC.

My PC does what I tell it to do, and nothing else.

The beatings will continue until posting improves. -Magnus Cortex

Official Eve Online changelist: Togglable PvP. - Jordanna Bauer
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#27 - 2011-10-06 08:00:48 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
Surf Bum wrote:
That's like saying matches are bad because they burn down forests. Don't confuse the tool with the intention. It just sounds bad because they got a lot of coverage from virus writers abusing them.


Matches are selective and go out after only a few seconds.

Rootkits are more like a pill of Chlorine triflouride.

Once you start them going, they don't go out without amazing amounts of hassle.

But thats not even the main problem. The main problem is that rootkits, by their very nature, are covert. There are ways to run things with elevated privileges that DO NOT require hiding the fact that it is being done from the user. If you have to hide it, I don't want it done on my PC.

My PC does what I tell it to do, and nothing else.


Dude he is a linux user. Let it go....

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Surf Bum
#28 - 2011-10-06 08:04:11 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
... get a better AV, like avast.


My AV has already found rootkits in other MMO games that other AV software miss. Tech support at those respective companies confirmed the use of rootkits.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2011-10-06 08:10:21 UTC
Surf Bum wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
... get a better AV, like avast.


My AV has already found rootkits in other MMO games that other AV software miss. Tech support at those respective companies confirmed the use of rootkits.


You got anything to actually back that up because it is a outlandish claim that all other AV out there is unable to detect rootkits except yours, which just makes your posts sound like a product advert.

Also which MMOs were these? I know Blizzard uses Warden but I am unsure of which others.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-10-06 08:12:38 UTC
Surf Bum wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
... get a better AV, like avast.


My AV has already found rootkits in other MMO games that other AV software miss. Tech support at those respective companies confirmed the use of rootkits.




so your AV found rootkits that no other AV in the market found?



surely that sounds more and more like false positives.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#31 - 2011-10-06 08:12:48 UTC
Alpheias wrote:
Surf Bum wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
... get a better AV, like avast.


My AV has already found rootkits in other MMO games that other AV software miss. Tech support at those respective companies confirmed the use of rootkits.


You got anything to actually back that up because it is a outlandish claim that all other AV out there is unable to detect rootkits except yours, which just makes your posts sound like a product advert.

Also which MMOs were these? I know Blizzard uses Warden but I am unsure of which others.


Barely-legal Chinese MMO companies, naturally.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2011-10-06 08:15:01 UTC
Ciar Meara wrote:
Surf Bum wrote:
Extremely well known in the Linux community.


All five of them?


*LOL*


Renan Ruivo wrote:
Naran Eto wrote:


orly?

Live
Objective
Decisive
Adaptive
Active
informative

I get it...... Roll


Live. Live what? Can be dangerous...
Objective. What? can be dangerous....
Decisive. Bad decisions are dangerous...
Adaptive. Adaptive Nano Membranes on the wrong fit are dangerous...
Active. Can be REEEEEALY dangerous....
Informative. You blabber too much to the wrong people.. dangerous to yourself..



You never hid a porn magazine under your bed i guess,
because if you have to hide it from your mother, it's probably bad, right ?

You're either just trying to justify your opinion,
or ... i don't know ... "can be" doesn't say anything except
that there's a possibility that things could happen.

Like, there's the possibility that all oxygen in your room suddenly moves to one spot ...
... a spot where you aren't at ... and you'll die a horrible, slow death ...
... now, will you wear an oxygen tank all the time just to be safe ?

You can get hit by a falling brick when you leave your house.

Masturbation can make you blind. (love this one... lol)

Next time you use a knife to cut something open,
remember me and this post ... (and the possibility that you're not paying enough attention)
and suddenly ram the knife right into your stomach,
while nobody is around to hear you scream ...

... and you can see your blood pumping out of your body ...
... flooding the floor, wave after wave, red everywhere ...
... and die a horrible death with lots of pain and agony.


Congratulations.
Sarmatiko
#33 - 2011-10-06 08:17:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
I redowloaded EVE client installation package and re-checked executables and dynamic library files (packed in bin.zip file without directx).
Virustotal reports:
Logserver.exe
Exefile.exe
bin.zip (files from \bin directory)

All clean

Conclusion: OP, please drop tinfoil hat that you wearing and start using your brain before you post.
If you're just trolling then it's ok. If you're dumb then it's ok too.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#34 - 2011-10-06 08:18:56 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Ciar Meara wrote:
Surf Bum wrote:
Extremely well known in the Linux community.


All five of them?


*LOL*


Renan Ruivo wrote:
Naran Eto wrote:


orly?

Live
Objective
Decisive
Adaptive
Active
informative

I get it...... Roll


Live. Live what? Can be dangerous...
Objective. What? can be dangerous....
Decisive. Bad decisions are dangerous...
Adaptive. Adaptive Nano Membranes on the wrong fit are dangerous...
Active. Can be REEEEEALY dangerous....
Informative. You blabber too much to the wrong people.. dangerous to yourself..



You never hid a **** magazine under your bed i guess,
because if you have to hide it from your mother, it's probably bad, right ?

You're either just trying to justify your opinion,
or ... i don't know ... "can be" doesn't say anything except
that there's a possibility that things could happen.

Like, there's the possibility that all oxygen in your room suddenly moves to one spot ...
... a spot where you aren't at ... and you'll die a horrible, slow death ...
... now, will you wear an oxygen tank all the time just to be safe ?

You can get hit by a falling brick when you leave your house.

************ can make you blind. (love this one... lol)

Next time you use a knife to cut something open,
remember me and this post ... (and the possibility that you're not paying enough attention)
and suddenly ram the knife right into your stomach,
while nobody is around to hear you scream ...

... and you can see your blood pumping out of your body ...
... flooding the floor, wave after wave, red everywhere ...
... and die a horrible death with lots of pain and agony.


Congratulations.



My mom paid for my **** magazine subscriptions.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#35 - 2011-10-06 08:50:15 UTC
It's perfectly ok for your landlord to install exhaustive surveillance equipment throughout your house as all he wants is to make sure house rules are obliged and to ensure security of the premises, both against external threats like burglars and internal threats like abusive/criminal tenants or accidents.

Of course the tenant has no say when or how much information is gathered, how long it will be stored and how it will be used. It's all in the tenancy agreement. Privacy is for terrorists and other anti-society forces.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2011-10-06 10:30:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo-Moor
Abrazzar wrote:
It's perfectly ok for your landlord to install exhaustive surveillance equipment throughout your house as all he wants is to make sure house rules are obliged and to ensure security of the premises, both against external threats like burglars and internal threats like abusive/criminal tenants or accidents.

Of course the tenant has no say when or how much information is gathered, how long it will be stored and how it will be used. It's all in the tenancy agreement. Privacy is for terrorists and other anti-society forces.


Who in their right mind would sign that rental agreement? You must be way, way, way on the "right" with some troll **** like that.

Plus I don't need Uncle Sam holding my hand while I'm lighting up this marijuana blunt. I got this one Sammy! No need for the knocks at my door sporting butane lighters..
Sir Substance
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2011-10-06 10:48:57 UTC
Apollo-Moor wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
It's perfectly ok for your landlord to install exhaustive surveillance equipment throughout your house as all he wants is to make sure house rules are obliged and to ensure security of the premises, both against external threats like burglars and internal threats like abusive/criminal tenants or accidents.

Of course the tenant has no say when or how much information is gathered, how long it will be stored and how it will be used. It's all in the tenancy agreement. Privacy is for terrorists and other anti-society forces.


Who in their right mind would sign that rental agreement? You must be way, way, way on the "right" with some troll **** like that.

Plus I don't need Uncle Sam holding my hand while I'm lighting up this ********* blunt. I got his one Sammy!

Your sarcasmomonometer is clearly faulty. Here, let me hit you repeatedly over the head with it until it starts working again.

*screaming ensues from the next room*

The beatings will continue until posting improves. -Magnus Cortex

Official Eve Online changelist: Togglable PvP. - Jordanna Bauer
CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
#38 - 2011-10-06 14:09:04 UTC
Hello,

I just heard back from our security team. It is indeed a false positive; however, the antivirus developers have said that they need their customers to contact them in order to make changes to their virus database. Therefore, it seems that the best bet is to contact them directly.

CCP Spitfire | Marketing & Sales Team @ccp_spitfire
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#39 - 2011-10-06 14:17:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
Ciar Meara wrote:
Surf Bum wrote:
Extremely well known in the Linux community.


All five of them?


29 million, but hey that's close enough.

Unless of course you meant the people that work with it and not just desktop users, then its a lot more.

But still close enough.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Apollo-Moor
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2011-10-06 16:01:02 UTC
Sir Substance wrote:
Apollo-Moor wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
It's perfectly ok for your landlord to install exhaustive surveillance equipment throughout your house as all he wants is to make sure house rules are obliged and to ensure security of the premises, both against external threats like burglars and internal threats like abusive/criminal tenants or accidents.

Of course the tenant has no say when or how much information is gathered, how long it will be stored and how it will be used. It's all in the tenancy agreement. Privacy is for terrorists and other anti-society forces.


Who in their right mind would sign that rental agreement? You must be way, way, way on the "right" with some troll **** like that.

Plus I don't need Uncle Sam holding my hand while I'm lighting up this ********* blunt. I got his one Sammy!

Your sarcasmomonometer is clearly faulty. Here, let me hit you repeatedly over the head with it until it starts working again.

*screaming ensues from the next room*


Ahh yess.. Clearity..
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